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Kasept 10-25-2007 08:09 AM

Dixie Chatter, Attila's Storm Out
 
From backstretch:

Dixie Chatter: Fever...

Attila's Storm: Ankle...

Fevers may continue to be a problem with weather shift...

paisjpq 10-25-2007 08:13 AM

fevers are not caused by weather.

jms62 10-25-2007 08:13 AM

The cynic in me says hmmm when I see post position 10+ scratching with a fever.. When a horse scratches for a fever, is this verified by the track vet or are we taking hte trainer at his word ?

blackthroatedwind 10-25-2007 08:36 AM

This year's " fevers " appear to have been contracted at the draw.

Coach Pants 10-25-2007 08:37 AM

What they need is more cowbell.

KY_Sasquash 10-25-2007 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
From backstretch:

Dixie Chatter: Fever...

Attila's Storm: Ankle...

Fevers may continue to be a problem with weather shift...

terrible news-i wanted to play both of these.

my miss storm cat 10-25-2007 09:13 AM

DRF...

Attila's Storm, Dixie Chatter scratched
By JAY PRIVMAN and MIKE WELSCH

OCEANPORT, N.J. – Attila's Storm, who was entered in the Breeders' Cup Sprint, and Dixie Chatter, who was entered in the Breeders' Cup Juvenile, were scratched from their respective Saturday races on Thursday morning at Monmouth Park.

Attila's Storm has a filling in an ankle, according to trainer Rich Schosberg, who said X-rays were inconclusive.

"I'm sure it's nothing major, but we're certainly taking no risks," Schosberg said.

Dixie Chatter came up with a fever, according to his trainer, Richard Mandella.

"It's not anything serious," Mandella said Thursday morning. "He had a little temperature last night, and it was 102 this morning. He didn't eat his feed. So we went ahead and treated him with medication and scratched him. It puts a little kibosh on the weekend."

Dixie Chatter traveled from California on the same plane as Cry and Catch Me, who on Wednesday was withdrawn from the Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies with a similar illness.

outofthebox 10-25-2007 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62
The cynic in me says hmmm when I see post position 10+ scratching with a fever.. When a horse scratches for a fever, is this verified by the track vet or are we taking hte trainer at his word ?

The stewards/track vets basically take the trainers word that the horse has a fever. Ive yet to see a track vet actually take the horses temperature to varify it. Some will want verification that the trainers personal vet has treated the horse with antibiotics..

Danzig 10-25-2007 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
DRF...

Attila's Storm, Dixie Chatter scratched
By JAY PRIVMAN and MIKE WELSCH

OCEANPORT, N.J. – Attila's Storm, who was entered in the Breeders' Cup Sprint, and Dixie Chatter, who was entered in the Breeders' Cup Juvenile, were scratched from their respective Saturday races on Thursday morning at Monmouth Park.

Attila's Storm has a filling in an ankle, according to trainer Rich Schosberg, who said X-rays were inconclusive.

"I'm sure it's nothing major, but we're certainly taking no risks," Schosberg said.

Dixie Chatter came up with a fever, according to his trainer, Richard Mandella.

"It's not anything serious," Mandella said Thursday morning. "He had a little temperature last night, and it was 102 this morning. He didn't eat his feed. So we went ahead and treated him with medication and scratched him. It puts a little kibosh on the weekend."

Dixie Chatter traveled from California on the same plane as Cry and Catch Me, who on Wednesday was withdrawn from the Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies with a similar illness.

that wench...probably a little too much smooching going on!

Cannon Shell 10-25-2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
fevers are not caused by weather.

However rapid changes in temperature can cause stress related sickness in racehorses

Cannon Shell 10-25-2007 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KY_Sasquash
terrible news-i wanted to play both of these.

Actually great news because you just saved money ...

Cannon Shell 10-25-2007 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62
The cynic in me says hmmm when I see post position 10+ scratching with a fever.. When a horse scratches for a fever, is this verified by the track vet or are we taking hte trainer at his word ?

In stake races the trainer can scratch for any reason up to 45 mins to post. Plus most state vets barely have time to do the job that they have let alone going around taking tempatures.

Theatrical 10-25-2007 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
However rapid changes in temperature can cause stress related sickness in racehorses

We had a horse colic Tuesday night and it was attributed to the drop in temperature.

paisjpq 10-25-2007 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
However rapid changes in temperature can cause stress related sickness in racehorses


so can shipping across the country in a poorly ventilated airplane ....and so can a bad post draw......but the temps merly exacerbate the stress which can cause immune disruption....the weather itself is not the cause, because a healthy animal wouldn't be bothered by swings in temperature.

paisjpq 10-25-2007 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Theatrical
We had a horse colic Tuesday night and it was attributed to the drop in temperature.

this time of year it isn't so much caused by the temp shift as much as it is that grasses in the paddock begin to hoard fructan (to stay alive) which can cause a horse to colic....assuming the horse has paddock access....also as the weather cools many horses don't drink enough water, because they aren't sweating as much and can get themselves into trouble that way.

Cannon Shell 10-25-2007 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
so can shipping across the country in a poorly ventilated airplane ....and so can a bad post draw......but the temps merly exacerbate the stress which can cause immune disruption....the weather itself is not the cause, because a healthy animal wouldn't be bothered by swings in temperature.

but there is a relation between weather and sickness though

Cannon Shell 10-25-2007 12:34 PM

I believe you get your entry money back if you get a vet to scratch you by the way...

paisjpq 10-25-2007 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
but there is a relation between weather and sickness though

there is a much bigger realation between stress and sickness than weather and sickness....and you know as well as I do that if these horses are sick it is likely shipping fever

Cannon Shell 10-25-2007 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
there is a much bigger realation between stress and sickness than weather and sickness....and you know as well as I do that if these horses are sick it is likely shipping fever

I feel a little sick...

paisjpq 10-25-2007 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I feel a little sick...


must be the rain. cause I know it isn't the stress.


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