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Cannon Shell 10-14-2007 08:04 PM

Patriots next week
 
what is line vs. Miami?

ever see a 20pt dog in the NFL?

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-14-2007 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
what is line vs. Miami?

ever see a 20pt dog in the NFL?

The Super Bowl between the 49ers & Chargers it was close, nineteen and half I believe.

SniperSB23 10-14-2007 10:19 PM

What was the line a couple years ago when the Dolphins beat the Patriots in 2004? Had to be close to 20. Patriots were 12-1 going in and the Dolphins were 2-11.


Edit - I can't find the line but looks like it was only like 10.

viscount26 10-15-2007 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
what is line vs. Miami?

ever see a 20pt dog in the NFL?

Chuck
14 this morning. Could be 20 by Sunday. I'm biased of course
Lets go Pats

Cannon Shell 10-15-2007 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by viscount26
Chuck
14 this morning. Could be 20 by Sunday. I'm biased of course
Lets go Pats

Easy money unless BB decides to play the 2nd stringers in the 2nd half...

How does this game not wind up 42-10 or something like that?

Cannon Shell 10-15-2007 11:27 AM

16 1/2 now

SentToStud 10-15-2007 12:01 PM

Miami skunked NE at home last year.

Cannon Shell 10-15-2007 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Miami skunked NE at home last year.

These two teams have seemed to go in different directions since then. What happened to Miami's defense? Is the secondary really that bad?

SentToStud 10-15-2007 12:22 PM

Defense stinks. Secondary is awful, no pass rush and Jason Taylor looks 50 years old out there.

golfer 10-16-2007 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Easy money unless BB decides to play the 2nd stringers in the 2nd half...

How does this game not wind up 42-10 or something like that?

Considering the touchdown they scored on 4th down at the end of the game Sunday, I don't think you have to worry about Bellicheck's not wanting to run up the score.

The Indomitable DrugS 10-16-2007 06:13 PM

Moss can have 0 catches and still be the most dominant player on the field if he attracts all the attention he's been getting in the last two games.

The more they double him and constantly role coverages his way the better off all the other players at the skill positions will be.

Has anyone seen how deep the safeties have been playing? I know NE has lost their starter and 2nd string RB, but I'm not so sure I couldn't be effective running in that offense.

With Moss and Brady healthy, the only way that offense can be stopped is if a defensive line (without the aid of blitzing linebackers) totally dominates NE's offensive line. The way the NE O-line has played, good luck with that.

This team will probably break the record for all-time points scored in a season. That record is held by the '98 Vikings, who went 15-1 in Randy Moss's rookie year, when he had 17 TD's while offically starting just 11 games...that before teams figured out all the clever schemes to stop him.

skippy3481 10-16-2007 06:32 PM

I disagree, the way to stop this offense is with a solid secondary. If you can play up on every reciever but randy(It's possible) and then either drop in a lb underneath or a safety over the top, your going to create easy blitz situations. The pressure will not allow the recievers to get into double moves or field stretching patterns. If you just sit back and play any type of zone or cover two... brady is going to pick you apart. It's just like peyton manning, you don't just rush four and hope someone gets lucky and gets to him. You have to take calculated risks and try to force him into something stupid. They both are simply too smart and too accurate to play any type of zone defense.

The Indomitable DrugS 10-16-2007 06:43 PM

You can't constantly blitz an offense that has Moss and Stallworth playing reciever - a good offensive line - and Brady at QB....that's suicide.

Danzig 10-16-2007 06:49 PM

i think the pats win easily.

anyone think the jags have a shot vs the colts?? i do.

SniperSB23 10-16-2007 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by golfer
Considering the touchdown they scored on 4th down at the end of the game Sunday, I don't think you have to worry about Bellicheck's not wanting to run up the score.

Or the bomb for a TD they threw to Moss in the 4th quarter against the Bills when the Bills were effectively taking a knee and running out the clock.

Danzig 10-16-2007 07:18 PM

stephen a smith commented on the accusations that the pats ran up the score at dallas. i agreed with what he said. that if dallas just wanted the game over, they shouldn't have called time out with 1 1/2 minutes left for one...more to the point, you don't want the other team to score--don't let them!
also enjoyed his take on the whole popcorn thing. funny stuff.

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-16-2007 07:22 PM

cannon goes to the well again...lol

JJP 10-16-2007 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
The Super Bowl between the 49ers & Chargers it was close, nineteen and half I believe.

I think it was 16 or 16 1/2 but we get the point.

The NFL is moving away from parity. Two teams much better than the others and several dreadfully horrible teams; not to mention one conference is light years better than the other. Here's my top 10:
1) New England 2) Indianapolis 3) Pittsburgh 4) Jacksonville 5) San Diego 6) Tennessee 7) Dallas 8) NY Giants 9) Green Bay 10) Washington

JJP 10-16-2007 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
You can't constantly blitz an offense that has Moss and Stallworth playing reciever - a good offensive line - and Brady at QB....that's suicide.

Don't forget Welker. What did he have vs Dallas? 11 catches?

SniperSB23 10-16-2007 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
I think it was 16 or 16 1/2 but we get the point.

The NFL is moving away from parity. Two teams much better than the others and several dreadfully horrible teams; not to mention one conference is light years better than the other. Here's my top 10:
1) New England 2) Indianapolis 3) Pittsburgh 4) Jacksonville 5) San Diego 6) Tennessee 7) Dallas 8) NY Giants 9) Green Bay 10) Washington

With Chambers added to address the Chargers biggest weakness I'd probably put them at #3 right now if we were basing it on chances going forward. Definitely agree though that there are six in the AFC before you should even consider an NFC team.


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