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NoLuvForPletch 10-07-2007 06:05 PM

Nice Ride Victor
 
Wow!!! That was some job by Espinoza there on Greg's Gold. Nice move there early to make sure he secured that position to make sure he could get boxed in for HALF A MILE. He cost many people Pick 4, Pick 3, and Pick 6 there, yes including me.

Cannon Shell 10-07-2007 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
Wow!!! That was some job by Espinoza there on Greg's Gold. Nice move there early to make sure he secured that position to make sure he could get boxed in for HALF A MILE. He cost many people Pick 4, Pick 3, and Pick 6 there, yes including me.

NoLuvForVic

geeker2 10-07-2007 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
Wow!!! That was some job by Espinoza there on Greg's Gold. Nice move there early to make sure he secured that position to make sure he could get boxed in for HALF A MILE. He cost many people Pick 4, Pick 3, and Pick 6 there, yes including me.


Agree..when he finally got free he took off... to late. He didn't need to win this one which always concerns me when I use the "single"...

philcski 10-07-2007 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
Wow!!! That was some job by Espinoza there on Greg's Gold. Nice move there early to make sure he secured that position to make sure he could get boxed in for HALF A MILE. He cost many people Pick 4, Pick 3, and Pick 6 there, yes including me.

Cost me the pick 6. Terrible.

Uncle Daddy 10-07-2007 09:06 PM

Not sure of the ride but i will move him up on real dirt at Monmouth. Got to think he can accelerate a half length quicker in the last 150 yards

Coach Pants 10-07-2007 09:10 PM

I wish he'd go back to driving a bus for a living. The guy is consistently dreadful.

flifishri 10-07-2007 09:49 PM

Just horrible! No need to go inside...pace was set up for GG...shud have been a easy win. The ride cost me a pick 4. Perhaps his connections will change up going forward!

Indian Charlie 10-07-2007 11:37 PM

anyone who thinks greg's gold will win the bc sprint needs their head examined, IMO, and I'm stuck with him in the TVG contest!

goingtothewhip 10-08-2007 01:08 AM

^ Me thinks he doesn't even make the plane.

To quote Malorie in Natural Born Killers, "Bad, bad, bad......"

SentToStud 10-08-2007 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
anyone who thinks greg's gold will win the bc sprint needs their head examined, IMO, and I'm stuck with him in the TVG contest!

Who do you like?

NTamm1215 10-08-2007 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
anyone who thinks greg's gold will win the bc sprint needs their head examined, IMO, and I'm stuck with him in the TVG contest!

I bet three weeks out a lot of people said the same thing about Thor's Echo last year.

That was a fast race and Greg's Gold should have been an easy winner. Unless one is convinced he cannot reproduce his good synthetic form on the real dirt, anyone who is not considering him a contender needs their head examined.

It's not like there's so much out there to be convinced of right now.

NT

NTamm1215 10-08-2007 09:47 AM

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I guess it was fast, but hasn't Santa Anita been playing very fast since it opened? While he was blocked, who was he in against? Bordonaro is a shell of his former self and Idiot Proof is alright I guess. Aren't Fabulous Strike and Benny the Bull at least viable contenders right now? Not to mention the Baffert that won the Forego, whose name escapes me right now. I have my doubts with him, but his last race was pretty big.

When you get the kind of ride and trip that Greg's Gold got does it really matter who the competition was? I mean sure he would be a little more impressive if he was in a box and couldn't get out to run down Fabulous Strike.

The winner, Idiot Proof, posted a 113 BSF at Monmouth in July and then flopped on the Poly.

I didn't say that Greg's Gold is the leading contender, I just said that I would not dismiss him at all and cannot agree with somebody who says that anyone considering him needs their head examined.

NT

King Glorious 10-08-2007 09:54 AM

I don't know that I like Greg's Gold to win the race but he's definitely belonging of a spot on the top 4-5 contenders list. I also don't know that I would blame his rider yesterday as much as I would credit the riders of Idiot Proof and that Barbecue horse. I thought they rode great races to recognize the horse to beat and not let him have an easy time of doing so.

Also, if there is a concern with Greg's Gold, it's the Aristides at Churchill. I know it's only one race and nothing conclusive can be made of one race but it's the only chance we've had to see how he does when shipping........and he was destroyed by Fabulous Strike that day. Perhaps it was just an off day, a bad race. Or is he like Lava Man when shipping?

NTamm1215 10-08-2007 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm going to play devil's advocate for a second. Had he gotten out wouldn't he have had basically a perfect trip? Would the victory have been impressive than? Sorry, he's going to have to beat me in the Sprint and while Idiot Proof did freak that day at Monmouth, I don't want any part of him in the sprint either. The preps in California this weekend all came up bad IMO and I don't want any horse that is coming out of them.

You don't have to apologize to me for not betting him. I have no great reason to think I'll bet him at this point in time.

However, I do think he is a contender for the win. That's how the whole conversation started.

While I do think Idiot Proof is going to get a bit too much attention because of his high BSF at Monmouth, the fact that he rated nicely and finished intrigued me a bit.

Look, the Sprint is clearly a wide-open race, that's why I suggested GG is still a contender. Once next Wednesday hits us and we can take a gander at the Advance Edition, we can see who else is going to run against him.

NT

Bystander 10-08-2007 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Not to mention the Baffert that won the Forego, whose name escapes me right now. I have my doubts with him, but his last race was pretty big.

Midnight Lute.


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