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GPK 09-27-2007 02:30 PM

Joe Hirsch Turf Classic
 
Why the move to Sunday this year? Hasn't it been on Saturday's in the past? Or maybe my memory is sh*t..

Sightseek 09-27-2007 02:32 PM

They heard your head would explode seeing Eng Chan and Typhoon on the same day.

I'm not crazy about the bigger races being moved to Sunday.

GPK 09-27-2007 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Why the move to Sunday this year? Hasn't it been on Saturday's in the past? Or maybe my memory is sh*t..


Im not losing it...it was on a Saturday last year...

Linny 09-27-2007 02:33 PM

TV coverage.

GPK 09-27-2007 02:34 PM

This sucks....the first NFL game I have ever been to in my life is this coming Sunday.

F me running...:(

viscount26 09-27-2007 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
This sucks....the first NFL game I have ever been to in my life is this coming Sunday.

F me running...:(

Jeez Kev. I've been to more games than you
:D

SentToStud 09-27-2007 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
This sucks....the first NFL game I have ever been to in my life is this coming Sunday.

F me running...:(

The Smith Mtn Lake Trout?

Linny 09-27-2007 02:45 PM

The field for this "Classic" really sucks. EC is not as good as he once was and out of 14 invitees, only 2 entered. They re-opened the race and got little of note.

blackthroatedwind 09-27-2007 02:53 PM

I agree.....as of now ( and can't see things changing ) it looks like a horrifically bad race. Plus, there appears to be no pace whatsoever. English Channel isn't much but his competition, save Shamidan who looks like a victim of pace, may well be even worse.

Sightseek 09-27-2007 02:54 PM

It really stinks that the untelivised races will probably have much better and fuller fields than the Sunday line-up. Both the Beldame & JCGC are looking short too, no?

blackthroatedwind 09-27-2007 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
It really stinks that the untelivised races will probably have much better and fuller fields than the Sunday line-up. Both the Beldame & JCGC are looking short too, no?


At least the Beldame is a good betting race with Ginger Punch the likely favorite. She's pretty hopeless in there.

All the dodging of big races, with an eye on the evil BC, has ruined high end racing. But that's old news.

Sightseek 09-27-2007 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
At least the Beldame is a good betting race with Ginger Punch the likely favorite. She's pretty hopeless in there.

All the dodging of big races, with an eye on the evil BC, has ruined high end racing. But that's old news.

King Glorious would like to know how you can say this without the PP's.

blackthroatedwind 09-27-2007 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
King Glorious would like to know how you can say this without the PP's.


That's good.

SentToStud 09-27-2007 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
At least the Beldame is a good betting race with Ginger Punch the likely favorite. She's pretty hopeless in there.

All the dodging of big races, with an eye on the evil BC, has ruined high end racing. But that's old news.

Has it ever. I remember when the summer was for older horses to run in handicaps to see who could carry weight and even run on turf and the fall series brought the 3 yos together with the olders to see who was best at any age. When I think about what's happened to the fall Belmont meet it truly saddens me.

boswd 09-27-2007 03:10 PM

yeah Super Saturday is now Super Sunday to yeah compete agains the NFL. Super smart.

I wonder if the Win and your in had to do with it,

blackthroatedwind 09-27-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Has it ever. I remember when the summer was for older horses to run in handicaps to see who could carry weight and even run on turf and the fall series brought the 3 yos together with the olders to see who was best at any age. When I think about what's happened to the fall Belmont meet it truly saddens me.


I couldn't agree more.

blackthroatedwind 09-27-2007 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by boswd
yeah Super Saturday is now Super Sunday to yeah compete agains the NFL. Super smart.

I wonder if the Win and your in had to do with it,

ESPN shows College Football on Saturday. The only way those races could be televised was to move them to Sunday. I agree it's unfortunate but I guess it's better to have them televised nationally.

GPK 09-27-2007 03:21 PM

All the hating on EC.

Id love to own a horse that "isn't much" and has earned the $$ he has.

Hes not a Euro quality turf horse by anymeans...but his record here in America speaks for itself.

blackthroatedwind 09-27-2007 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
All the hating on EC.

Id love to own a horse that "isn't much" and has earned the $$ he has.

Hes not a Euro quality turf horse by anymeans...but his record here in America speaks for itself.

It's not " hating "....it's reality. His last race was decidely mediocre and none of his efforts this year have been particularly good. For him to be odds-on, given his 2007 form, in a supposed big race like this is a complete condemnation of the race.

You're a fan of his, that's great, and obviously we all wished we owned him, but the truth speaks for itself.

The Indomitable DrugS 09-27-2007 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Id love to own a horse that "isn't much" and has earned the $$ he has.

My man, you just went with my all-time least favorite defense for a horse, the 'I'd love to own one like him' card.

I think I've had that one thrown at me everytime I've gone on one of my crusades against wildly overrated horses.


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