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Uncle Daddy 09-24-2007 09:21 PM

Gorgeous George
 
Anybody know if George Washington is still viable for the BC Mile or the turf? I know he disappointed in his first after the stud experiment. His wins were visually impressive in '06 and I seem to want to live in the past.

my miss storm cat 09-24-2007 10:19 PM

His next race is the QEII..... :)

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...t=16537&page=2

I guess we'll get a better sense of the plan after that.

cmorioles 09-24-2007 10:58 PM

His races this year have been a bit underwhelming. As of now, it doesn't sound like a US trip is in the cards according to O'Brien.

Linny 09-25-2007 08:00 AM

It may depend on what Ramonti does. Frankly, the 2nd tier Euro milers can usually handle our horses so I imagine that Goerge should have a shot. The problem is that he cannot handle the best of Europe, so if they come, he may as well stay home.

The Bid 09-25-2007 08:13 AM

Can the Euro 2yos handle Big Brown, or Cherokee Triangle

Linny 09-25-2007 08:25 AM

Rio de la Plata can, if he comes. The filly Saoirse Abu could also. Don't forget to include Prussian in your list of nice North American based 2yo's.

The Bid 09-25-2007 09:02 AM

No doubt about it Linny, those are the 3 American hopes for the 2yo turf.

NTamm1215 09-25-2007 09:23 AM

Cherokee Triangle looked awesome in the morning and afternoon last weekend at LaDowns. He seems to be maturing beautifully and while he was clearly the best horse on paper in the Sunday Silence, a 10 3/4 length win on the turf is very impressive.

NT

The Bid 09-25-2007 09:32 AM

Physically he seems to be top of the line, there arent many 2yo who look like that.

He did lay over them on the form, but the 10+ length win was pretty impressive, and professional

Cannon Shell 09-25-2007 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Can the Euro 2yos handle Big Brown, or Cherokee Triangle

Saw Big Browns sister at Keeneland yesterday...hard to believe they are related...without his big win I'm thinking she brings like 5k.

Scav 09-25-2007 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Saw Big Browns sister at Keeneland yesterday...hard to believe they are related...without his big win I'm thinking she brings like 5k.

Did Brown end up getting sold after that win? I can't remember

Cannon Shell 09-25-2007 10:44 AM

Have they decided on how horses are going to qualify for the 2 yo turf race yet? Because unless a horse like Big Brown runs again he is just a maidenbreaker who may not get preference over a horse who wins an allowance or places in a stake.

Cannon Shell 09-25-2007 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Did Brown end up getting sold after that win? I can't remember

Supposedly to the IEAH dudes....

The Bid 09-25-2007 10:45 AM

What did she bring Cannon?

Who knows how they are going to select the 2yo turf, should be a disaster! Mott and Maker will certainly get in, but who knows about Big Brown, who may be better than both

Cannon Shell 09-25-2007 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
What did she bring Cannon?

Who knows how they are going to select the 2yo turf, should be a disaster! Mott and Maker will certainly get in, but who knows about Big Brown, who may be better than both

57 I believe. I guess McPeek's horse that won the River race would be in though I heard they may go in the dirt race which seems odd (or stupid)

Linny 09-25-2007 12:04 PM

DRF reported last week that the majority of Big Brown was purchased by IEAH. Dutrow now has him. He's supposed to run in the Pilgrim this weekend, according to the article.

The Bid 09-25-2007 12:27 PM

Linny, Id say hes 85% to go to the Pilgram.

I guess we will see how this pans out in the future

NoChanceToDance 09-25-2007 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linny
Rio de la Plata can, if he comes. The filly Saoirse Abu could also. Don't forget to include Prussian in your list of nice North American based 2yo's.

I doubt any of the 2yo's we have got will go to the BC. Rio is a complete 2yo type in my opinion, so maybe they should give it a go. I don't think there will be much improvement in him next year...... that's just my opinion though.

Raven's Pass is another you should write down. He is owned by stonerside, so there is a possibility he could end up in America sometime, but not sure if he will as a 2yo.

Linny 09-25-2007 01:54 PM

My guess is that the Euro's who show up may well be second tier, but they may still be better than out best grass babies.


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