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golfer 09-21-2007 06:49 PM

George Carlin on Education and the owners of America
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccYoVnBc_fk

Coach Pants 10-08-2007 09:43 AM


pgardn 10-10-2007 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by golfer

I like George.
He is an interesting man.
But that is utter bullshit.

Who is they?
They want this,
they want that...

The they are Bill Gates,
Steve Jobs and all the guys
who came out of nowhere.
And they got to the top
by being savy enough to
see the world about them.

Whatever the top is.
Lash out and try to blame
someone for your position.

Learn about the frikin world around you.
Enable yourself to fit into any situation
and roll with all the changes that we face.
Make yourself valuable. And then no one owns you.
No one tells you what to do. Start your own business,
or become too valuable to be let go.
You determine your fate more extensively.

And then get your butt into office and change
things instead of blaming THEY.

This country is far from perfect.
But enough of the crybaby THEY, THEY, THEY.
The blame game is so old.
Change it if you dont like it.
Who the fck wants to be helpless.
Quit griping and do something, get involved.
Damn it George. Get into politics if you understand
so much.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-10-2007 11:02 PM

It's a lot more like what George said than like what PGRDN said.Unless your very high tech,your screwed when you work for somebody else.It's all set up for business owners.They get to pay as little as possible,and then the gov't taxes the worker on that shitty pay.Then when he struggles,they tell him to get a "better" job.This was the job that was supposed to be "good."Meanwhile,the business owner gets to write off the cost of his 2 cars etc. etc. on his taxes,and then starts telling the worker that he now has to take another 8th of his wages for the medical coverage.See,that's a new one.Businesses used to pay the medical,but now it's somehow more and more on the worker.The "somehow" is because it's designed for them(the owners.) So,don't work for somebody else. It's not set up to work for you that way.The exception is working like PGRDN does(for a school district etc. that isn't out to make a profit.) He isn't getting ripped off,and so he thinks others get a fair deal(they don't.)Capitalism is set up for people to be able to capitalize off of the poor position of other people.That's the part of Carlin that's right,and PGRDN is right about owning a business.

Danzig 10-11-2007 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
It's a lot more like what George said than like what PGRDN said.Unless your very high tech,your screwed when you work for somebody else.It's all set up for business owners.They get to pay as little as possible,and then the gov't taxes the worker on that shitty pay.Then when he struggles,they tell him to get a "better" job.This was the job that was supposed to be "good."Meanwhile,the business owner gets to write off the cost of his 2 cars etc. etc. on his taxes,and then starts telling the worker that he now has to take another 8th of his wages for the medical coverage.See,that's a new one.Businesses used to pay the medical,but now it's somehow more and more on the worker.The "somehow" is because it's designed for them(the owners.) So,don't work for somebody else. It's not set up to work for you that way.The exception is working like PGRDN does(for a school district etc. that isn't out to make a profit.) He isn't getting ripped off,and so he thinks others get a fair deal(they don't.)Capitalism is set up for people to be able to capitalize off of the poor position of other people.That's the part of Carlin that's right,and PGRDN is right about owning a business.

i pay for everything else, but someone else should pay for my medical insurance? i think that's where things get a bit twisted. for some reason, medical care is suddenly someone else's responsibility? i keep hearing about the 47 million without health insurance, but i wonder how many of them turned down available coverage. i see it every day where i work. oh, i don't need that, i never get sick. oh, i don't want to pay that portion. so then everyone else on coverage pays a higher rate than they would if more people got in. then when the rube who turned down coverage needs it, well it's someone else's fault he didn't have it.

Mortimer 10-11-2007 08:05 AM

Monster!!

Danzig 10-11-2007 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
Monster!!

grrrrrr

Mortimer 10-11-2007 08:20 AM

Hossy!!!






Help Me!

Danzig 10-11-2007 09:23 AM

that's it?! pfffft

Mortimer 10-11-2007 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
It was pretty weak, I agree. I'm tired. I won't always be though..... (evil laugh)


It's the thought that counts.




I got a thorn in my paw and it got infected.

The Forest Fairy Princess pulled it out.






I told her..."Hey..that ain't the thorn...but I already feel better!!









So if you think YOU'RE tired........

Coach Pants 10-11-2007 09:40 AM

I'm in a fantastic mood today. I just got a check for thirty-six hundo in the mail!

Mortimer 10-11-2007 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Mind sharing that princess with a fellow predator?


!!!!




Why...no...not at all.




But be patient...I just put...I mean somehow got a thorn in my other 3 paws.

Danzig 10-11-2007 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
I'm in a fantastic mood today. I just got a check for thirty-six hundo in the mail!

gonna bet it all on notre dame?

Coach Pants 10-11-2007 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
gonna bet it all on notre dame?

No. It's going on the Colorado Donkeys

Mortimer 10-11-2007 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
No. It's going on the Colorado Donkeys

Who's barn is that again?

Coach Pants 10-11-2007 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
Who's barn is that again?

Dallas Stewart.


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