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Spiggle24 09-10-2007 01:42 PM

Watching Keeneland sales
 
A very nice colt from Dynaformer out of a Mr. Prospetor mare 2.9Mil.

http://apps.keeneland.com/livesales/...o/frameset.asp

ELA 09-10-2007 02:00 PM

Ferguson without question. That horse was on a lot of short lists.

Eric

Spiggle24 09-10-2007 02:23 PM

Based on bloodline hip 179 colt Empire Maker out of a Storm Cat mare for the small sum of 75K.Seems like a bit of a bargain.CHUCK!!!!!:rolleyes:

Scav 09-10-2007 02:57 PM

There new setup to watch the sales is amazingly well run. Most of these horse related companies have no idea when it comes to the net and websitse but this has been awesome. It is clear on my screen, I can hear this hilarious guy say zero words in 15 minutes, but talked the whole time, and I can see the hip sheet. Pretty cool

Spiggle24 09-10-2007 03:04 PM

Yes being able to see the catalog page along with the auction adds nicely to the flavor & educating the average Joe Horseman more.I hope everyone's enjoying the link.:)

Coach Pants 09-10-2007 03:05 PM

Well it beats watching paint dry.

Scav 09-10-2007 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Well it beats watching paint dry.

That is basically what I was doing so yeah, this and PTI and now Sportscenter. I got San Fran tonight -3, got it before the move to 3.5

The Indomitable DrugS 09-10-2007 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
Well it beats watching paint dry.

In a photo.

Coach Pants 09-10-2007 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
That is basically what I was doing so yeah, this and PTI and now Sportscenter. I got San Fran tonight -3, got it before the move to 3.5

It's sitting on -3 -130 for me.

I'm liking the unders on both games and the Ravens straight up.

Scav 09-10-2007 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants
It's sitting on -3 -130 for me.

I'm liking the unders on both games and the Ravens straight up.

Not a fan of the under in the Niner game, but I won't argue with you on the baltimore under, I think that number is right there

ddthetide 09-10-2007 03:23 PM

actually interesting, i've never watched a sell before. thanks for the link.

hoovesupsideyourhead 09-10-2007 04:38 PM

smart stike getting da big bucks,,,

Cannon Shell 09-10-2007 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ELA
Ferguson without question. That horse was on a lot of short lists.

Eric

Shorter list of who could actually take a swing at him!

Cannon Shell 09-10-2007 06:31 PM

Sales was off almost $20 million from last years session from 163 horses sold for $87.9 million last year to 171 sold for $67.4 this year. There were no really high dollar horses with the exception of the Dynaformer. On first glance you may think that the overall market is way down but the reality is that Sheik Mo's totals alone were what propped up last years sale to record levels as he spent $29.6 million for 16 horses on last years 1st day versus $13.9 for 13 this year. That $16 million difference is 80% of the drop from last year.

sumitas 09-10-2007 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiggle24
Based on bloodline hip 179 colt Empire Maker out of a Storm Cat mare for the small sum of 75K. Seems like a bit of a bargain.CHUCK!!!!!:rolleyes:

The catalog page
http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/sep07/pdfs/179.pdf

There is more to it than the pedigree. The physicals, etc. More head sold this year than last and the median was not far down.

ELA 09-10-2007 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Sales was off almost $20 million from last years session from 163 horses sold for $87.9 million last year to 171 sold for $67.4 this year. There were no really high dollar horses with the exception of the Dynaformer. On first glance you may think that the overall market is way down but the reality is that Sheik Mo's totals alone were what propped up last years sale to record levels as he spent $29.6 million for 16 horses on last years 1st day versus $13.9 for 13 this year. That $16 million difference is 80% of the drop from last year.

The sales have been off across the board all year long, and were expected to bere here as well. Whether it be a 10% "correction" or a 20% "slide", to whatever extent -- even if it's off big-time, I think you'll see a lot more in the way of reality.

First, from what I gather, there were no $10m horses in this sale. There are some nice horses, but I think people have gotten spoiled. The top will be much lighter, the high-end will be lighter as well. As far as the middle market, I think that will also depend on the buy-backs, RNA's, etc. and what the seller's mindset is.

This is a good thing, although the commercials breeders will say it's blasphemy, LOL.

Eric

philcski 09-10-2007 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiggle24
A very nice colt from Dynaformer out of a Mr. Prospetor mare 2.9Mil.

http://apps.keeneland.com/livesales/...o/frameset.asp

You know that mare, Preach, is Pulpit's dam right? ;)

Cajungator26 09-10-2007 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
You know that mare, Preach, is Pulpit's dam right? ;)

Did she have a 2005 foal, Phil?

Sightseek 09-10-2007 08:56 PM

I wanted Hip 66, but O'Byrne outlasted me.

philcski 09-10-2007 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Did she have a 2005 foal, Phil?

Yes- a Storm Cat that Maktoum paid $3,000,000 for. Still unnamed, as per the DRF.


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