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Indian Charlie 08-17-2007 08:13 PM

This one really makes me ill
 
I got a stable mail informing me that my favorite 3yo from the 2003 crop, man among men, is coming off a long layoff and is entered for a 17k claiming tag at some track i've never even heard of!

he's going 6 furlongs and is 15/1 on the morning line!

where the hell is northlands park?

I always felt really sorry for this horse. how those idiot owners could give such an obviously nice horse to gary mandella instead of his dad will forever go unknown to me.

this is a horse that, while being trained by gary mandella, beat peace rules as a two year old and handed empire maker his ass as a 3yo!

why would hubbard sell this horse for so little that someone could afford to buy him and run him for a cheap tag??

letswastemoney 08-17-2007 08:15 PM

I've never heard of this horse....that sucks though :(

Sightseek 08-17-2007 08:17 PM

Picture of him defeating Empire Maker on his pedigree query page:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/man+among+men2

Holland Hacker 08-17-2007 08:24 PM

Hearing stuff like this makes me respect the guys from Sackatoga a little bit more, who at least let Funny Cide "go out" a winner. At least not all owners are A Holes.

Indian Charlie 08-17-2007 08:38 PM

i expected him to be a top level horse.

in my eyes, he was the most talented horse in that entire crop, and i loved that win against empire maker.

i loved too that he was probably even better on turf!

Sightseek 08-17-2007 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
i expected him to be a top level horse.

in my eyes, he was the most talented horse in that entire crop, and i loved that win against empire maker.

i loved too that he was probably even better on turf!

How often did they try him there? I see his dam was placed in the Prix de l'Opera. If only he were a filly...

Ronnie 08-17-2007 09:52 PM

I don't remember him and I have a pretty good memory No one is going to claim a horse off a long layoff, why not make some money on the way back up, if up is the direction he is going? Maybe he doesn't have enough saved up for retirement, what else is he supposed to do? He's probably burned through all his purse winnings already...he's looking at what, at least $300 a month for retirement?

Indian Charlie 08-17-2007 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
How often did they try him there? I see his dam was placed in the Prix de l'Opera. If only he were a filly...


i believe his turf record was 3 wins in 4 starts.

docicu3 08-17-2007 11:49 PM

We should have bought him if he was sound and let uncle chuck work the magic...

Indian Charlie 08-18-2007 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
We should have bought him if he was sound and let uncle chuck work the magic...

i cant think of a single horse that has remained sound after being trained by gary mandella.

especially back then, in those first days of his career.

Indian Charlie 08-18-2007 12:23 PM

you know, after the sham stakes, i sorta dont recollect to well what became of him. i do seem to remember they kept changing plans for him though and that he seemed to miss workouts and races.

i think you may be right about the ark derby however, and if he ran there, he ran dismally.

Danzig 08-18-2007 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
you know, after the sham stakes, i sorta dont recollect to well what became of him. i do seem to remember they kept changing plans for him though and that he seemed to miss workouts and races.

i think you may be right about the ark derby however, and if he ran there, he ran dismally.

he ran 10th that day, with 55-1 sir cherokee winning the thing. then they found later that man among men had an injury, put him up for the year.
guess it's safe to say he didn't come back from that well--a shame too, he seemed like a good horse.

not only beat empire maker, but ten most wanted as well.

Indian Charlie 08-18-2007 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
he ran 10th that day, with 55-1 sir cherokee winning the thing. then they found later that man among men had an injury, put him up for the year.
guess it's safe to say he didn't come back from that well--a shame too, he seemed like a good horse.

not only beat empire maker, but ten most wanted as well.

yeah, i do remember that now quite well.

great news though! he managed to finish 5th today!

letswastemoney 08-18-2007 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
yeah, i do remember that now quite well.

great news though! he managed to finish 5th today!

First start back.....must key him for next time ;)


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