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jwkniska 08-09-2007 12:17 PM

Million ML fav may scratch
 
After Market may be out due to the wet turf. Big rain again yesterday, supposed to get more today too.

Kasept 08-09-2007 09:14 PM

AP: Million; Bev D; Secretariat
 
7th (3:10) Secretariat S. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 1 Going Ballistic Berry M C Von Hemel Donnie K 121 L 8-1
2 2 Admiralofthefleet Kinane M J O'Brien Aidan P 121 Blk-On FTL 3-1
3 3 Fleeting Shadow (IRE) Smullen P J Weld Dermot K 119 Blk-On FTL 15-1
4 4 Lattice Albarado R J Mott William I 123 L 6-1
5 5 Red Giant Gomez G K Pletcher Todd A 123 L 5-2
6 6 Love Dubai Lanerie C J Maker Michael J 119 L 20-1
7 7 Mostacolli Mort Espinoza V Canani Julio C 119 L 30-1
8 8 Shamdinan (FR) Leparoux J R O'Neill Doug 119 FTL 7-2
9 9 Pleasant Strike Douglas R R Pletcher Todd A 121 L 8-1


$2 Win / Place / Show / $2 Exacta / $0.50 Trifecta / $0.10 Superfecta $1 Festival Pick 3 (3 Grade 1 Races 7-8-9) $250,000 Guaranteed



8th (3:45) Beverly D. S. (G1)

1 3/16 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 1 Citronnade Flores D R Frankel Robert 123 L 2-1
2 2 Lahudood (GB) Albarado R J McLaughlin Kiaran P 123 L 12-1
3 3 Irridescence (SAF) Murtagh J P de Kock Michael F 123 4-1
4 4 Lady of Venice (FR) Leparoux J R Biancone Patrick L 123 L 9-2
5 5 Jennie R. Baird E T Boyce Michele 123 L 20-1
6 6 Honey Ryder Gomez G K Pletcher Todd A 123 L 5-2
7 7 Royal Highness (GER) Douglas R R Clement Christophe 123 L 8-1


$2 Win / Place / Show / $2 Exacta / $0.50 Trifecta / $0.10 Superfecta $1 Pick 3 (8-9-10) / $2 Grade 1 Double (Races 8-9)



9th (4:40) Arlington Million S. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 1 Jambalaya Albarado R J Day Phillips C 126 L 10-1
2 2 Sunriver Gomez G K Pletcher Todd A 126 L 9-2
3 3 Doctor Dino (FR) Murtagh J P Gibson Richard 126 6-1
4 4 After Market Solis A Shirreffs John 126 L 2-1
5 5 The Tin Man Espinoza V Mandella Richard 126 L 3-1
6 6 Pressing (IRE) Flores D R Jarvis Michael A 126 FTL 20-1
7 7 Stream Cat Leparoux J R Biancone Patrick L 126 20-1
8 8 Danak (IRE) Kinane M J Oxx John M 126 5-1


$2 Win / Place / Show / $2 Exacta / $0.50 Trifecta / $0.10 Superfecta $1 Pick 3 (9-10-11) / $1 Late Pick 4 (Races 9-10-11-12) $200,000 Guaranteed

Scav 08-09-2007 10:15 PM

I am getting closer and closer to getting sucked into the Tin Man. friggin sucks because i know I am going to get bitten. It will be an awesome race call with him there at the end though. Dooley might have a heart attack

miraja2 08-09-2007 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I am getting closer and closer to getting sucked into the Tin Man. friggin sucks because i know I am going to get bitten. It will be an awesome race call with him there at the end though. Dooley might have a heart attack

I am leaning the same way. Gomez and Pletcher probably will use Sunriver a bit early on to make sure TTM doesn't crawl along like he did last year, but TTM is not (as he demonstrated in the Shoemaker) a need-the-lead type. His loss in his last race - along with recent wins by After Market and Sunriver - should also help his odds. That stretch battle that TTM lost in his last start was to a horse that he was giving 10 lbs to that day, while After Market was getting 6 lbs from Lava Man in his biggest race to date.
As a bit of a longshot to maybe hit the board, I also like the Irish horse Pressing. He ran some decent races in Italy and I think he could be a factor here if he moves up a bit. Given that this is his first time on on the big L, a move up is certainly possible.

ArlJim78 08-10-2007 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I am getting closer and closer to getting sucked into the Tin Man. friggin sucks because i know I am going to get bitten. It will be an awesome race call with him there at the end though. Dooley might have a heart attack

i really don't see The Tin Man getting in front again this year. i also didn't see it last year but it looks to me like he lost a step or two.
think this year it will go to one of the young guns. don't ask me which one yet because right now I see it going many ways. for me I think i'll play pick threes and spread in this race trying to beat The Tin Man and After Market.

Sightseek 08-10-2007 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
i really don't see The Tin Man getting in front again this year. i also didn't see it last year but it looks to me like he lost a step or two.
think this year it will go to one of the young guns. don't ask me which one yet because right now I see it going many ways. for me I think i'll play pick threes and spread in this race trying to beat The Tin Man and After Market.

Just out of curiousity as the Million seems one of those events that every horseracing person should eventually attend...do they make a week long event out of it similiar to the Travers Festival and Oaklawn's Spring Festival of Racing for the Arkansas Derby?

brianwspencer 08-10-2007 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Just out of curiousity as the Million seems one of those events that every horseracing person should eventually attend...do they make a week long event out of it similiar to the Travers Festival and Oaklawn's Spring Festival of Racing for the Arkansas Derby?

They flew a balloon around Chicago to spread the word (!) WOW!

No, really, it's not a huge thing at least from my perspective around here, but there are certainly some things to do. Arlington Heights usually has a sort of town festival of some sort in their downtown this weekend if I'm not mistaken. But it doesn't really become a huge deal for most people around here.

Sightseek 08-10-2007 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
They flew a balloon around Chicago to spread the word (!) WOW!

No, really, it's not a huge thing at least from my perspective around here, but there are certainly some things to do. Arlington Heights usually has a sort of town festival of some sort in their downtown this weekend if I'm not mistaken. But it doesn't really become a huge deal for most people around here.

LOL, thanks.

brianwspencer 08-10-2007 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
LOL, thanks.

However, there may be people on this forum who don't drink their way through the entire Million weekend and may actually have a clue if other things are going on :D

Really though, the Million seems like the kind of day you've got to get to once. It's really a phenomenal day of racing (well, moreso in some years past, but this year will have to do) and a great atmosphere at the park.

southerndutch 08-10-2007 02:42 PM

Doctor Dino has a big shot in the million.His April 29th 3rd to Dylan Thomas was described by the Racing Post as an "eye-catching return." Dylan Thomas returned from that race to take the GI Queen Elizabeth at even money. In his last, the SingaporeCup (GI), he finished 3rd again by 2 but Oracle West(2nd by a head to Vengeance of Rain in the ran 6thDubai Sheema and ranked 15th in the world in the new world rankings) No one else in the race has those kind of company lines. Plus, he's won on soft going , and is 3 for 6 at 10 furlongs.

ArlJim78 08-10-2007 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Just out of curiousity as the Million seems one of those events that every horseracing person should eventually attend...do they make a week long event out of it similiar to the Travers Festival and Oaklawn's Spring Festival of Racing for the Arkansas Derby?

I think they have in the past called it something like the "international festival of racing". i was never real sure where the festival was. in downtwon AP they have a little event tonight they now call "The Mane Event", its in conjunction with the Million but frankly it seems only loosely connected. they block off the streets, have food and music, raffles, gifts, stuff for kids, etc. sort of an outside party atmosphere that is literally right outside my building.
nothing like a weeklong event though.

I haven't been to those other festivals you mentioned but I'm guessing they're much bigger affairs than this.

Sightseek 08-10-2007 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
However, there may be people on this forum who don't drink their way through the entire Million weekend and may actually have a clue if other things are going on :D

Really though, the Million seems like the kind of day you've got to get to once. It's really a phenomenal day of racing (well, moreso in some years past, but this year will have to do) and a great atmosphere at the park.

Hey, why all the hard feelings to Citronnade in your signature?! :p

ArlJim78 08-10-2007 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
They flew a balloon around Chicago to spread the word (!) WOW!

No, really, it's not a huge thing at least from my perspective around here, but there are certainly some things to do. Arlington Heights usually has a sort of town festival of some sort in their downtown this weekend if I'm not mistaken. But it doesn't really become a huge deal for most people around here.

haha, someone just told me about the balloon. i'll have to keep my eye out cause i haven't seen it yet.

i said the same thing in another post, its not such a big deal to most around here. although the track will be packed tomorrow for sure.

Sightseek 08-10-2007 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I think they have in the past called it something like the "international festival of racing". i was never real sure where the festival was. in downtwon AP they have a little event tonight they now call "The Mane Event", its in conjunction with the Million but frankly it seems only loosely connected. they block off the streets, have food and music, raffles, gifts, stuff for kids, etc. sort of an outside party atmosphere that is literally right outside my building.
nothing like a weeklong event though.

I haven't been to those other festivals you mentioned but I'm guessing they're much bigger affairs than this.

Saratoga does stuff like that and more for both the Whitney & Travers, but than again, I'm pretty sure they are a racing atmosphere unlike any other.

It seems like the whole city of Hot Springs goes to the track the week of the Arkansas Derby. They promote that week really well.

brockguy 08-10-2007 04:11 PM

Just out of interest, these are the Million prices being offered by Irish Bookies Boylesports..
After Market 2/1
Danak 7/2
The Tin Man 9/2
Sunriver 11/2
Doctor Dino 7/1 (great bet!!!)
Pressing 12/1
Jambalaya 16/1
Stream Cat 33/1

NoChanceToDance 08-10-2007 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
Just out of interest, these are the Million prices being offered by Irish Bookies Boylesports..
After Market 2/1
Danak 7/2
The Tin Man 9/2
Sunriver 11/2
Doctor Dino 7/1 (great bet!!!)
Pressing 12/1
Jambalaya 16/1
Stream Cat 33/1

We're not tipping the same horse AGAIN, are we?

It worked with Ramonti, can it work again?

I've bet Doctor Dino at 13/2

brianwspencer 08-10-2007 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Hey, why all the hard feelings to Citronnade in your signature?! :p

Because I don't like her. She's a fine racehorse, but something about her just doesn't grab me.

On the other hand, I've had a slight love affair with Jennie R. for years here watching her run and struggle to really break through. She's never been my favorite, but she's one of those that I've seen for a few years here and she seemed to be so consistently close to being a good horse, but never really got there until this year.

With that said, she has no chance on earth tomorrow, so at the very least I hope my girl can wreak havoc on the chalk. If she can't win it, I hope that she can at least help guarantee that Citronnade won't.

Sightseek 08-10-2007 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Because I don't like her. She's a fine racehorse, but something about her just doesn't grab me.

On the other hand, I've had a slight love affair with Jennie R. for years here watching her run and struggle to really break through. She's never been my favorite, but she's one of those that I've seen for a few years here and she seemed to be so consistently close to being a good horse, but never really got there until this year.

With that said, she has no chance on earth tomorrow, so at the very least I hope my girl can wreak havoc on the chalk. If she can't win it, I hope that she can at least help guarantee that Citronnade won't.

I was just kidding, but I can certainly understand the sentiment. I love front running turf fillies (My Typhoon, Intercontinental, Noble Stella) They just keep bringing it straigth down to the wire. All the signs point against Citronnade tomorrow, but from a person who has great respect for horses, I really enjoy watching her respond on the turn with that big stride when Flores lets her go.

Danzig 08-10-2007 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
I was just kidding, but I can certainly understand the sentiment. I love front running turf fillies (My Typhoon, Intercontinental, Noble Stella) They just keep bringing it straigth down to the wire. All the signs point against Citronnade tomorrow, but from a person who has great respect for horses, I really enjoy watching her respond on the turn with that big stride when Flores lets her go.

loved seeing my typhoon win again the other day. she's a lot of fun! maybe not quite the same as watching megahertz...what is it about come from the cloud closers??

brianwspencer 08-10-2007 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
I was just kidding, but I can certainly understand the sentiment. I love front running turf fillies (My Typhoon, Intercontinental, Noble Stella) They just keep bringing it straigth down to the wire. All the signs point against Citronnade tomorrow, but from a person who has great respect for horses, I really enjoy watching her respond on the turn with that big stride when Flores lets her go.

That's exactly how I've felt watching Jennie R. in her last three races. She's set some pretty swift fractions in them and has just somehow kept on and has only been beaten by one horse in her last three -- and that one would have been a potential contender in here given how explosive she was in winning the Modesty.

I know you were kidding, I only changed my signature as a dig at your favorite :D


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