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ateamstupid 08-08-2007 12:40 PM

Maimonides will win the Derby
 
Just kidding. But that WAS a very electric debut.

jpops757 08-08-2007 12:41 PM

Zayat
 
Did we see the big reason why the move to the Spa?Opened with a 22 and then ran off. Pretty impressive the 9 ran a nice 2nd in first and nosed out for a distant 3rd. Looks like a big threat with a BIG purchase price.

10 pnt move up 08-08-2007 12:41 PM

all the best two year olds are on the east coast!

west coast sucks

Coach Pants 08-08-2007 12:43 PM

He'll win the 2008 BCC

Indian Charlie 08-08-2007 12:47 PM

Runners from his first crop, 2yos of 2012, will win both bc juvie races (more if the bc continues its expansion) and a different runner of his will win each of the triple crown races.

skippy3481 08-08-2007 12:48 PM

Really shouldn't we retire him, has he not done enough?

Cajungator26 08-08-2007 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481
Really shouldn't we retire him, has he not done enough?

LOL!

Indian Charlie 08-08-2007 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481
Really shouldn't we retire him, has he not done enough?

well, it's entirely obvious he will be retired prematurely, but i expect him to at least make it onto the derby trail early next year, which would probably means he first is bred in 2009.

skippy3481 08-08-2007 12:53 PM

But why not just retire him now, i mean, lets just keep extrapolating data from his first start. It's quite obvious he will win the triple crown, BCC and remain undefeated as long as he runs. Lets just save the horse from having to exert himself and put him in the shed now. Saves time don't ya think :)

boswd 08-08-2007 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
all the best two year olds are on the east coast!

west coast sucks


Don't get me wrong I am the biggest east coast supporter but this was part of the whole Zayat/Baffert Del Mar exodus. If Del Mar never switched to Poly he would have raced at Del Mar

Indian Charlie 08-08-2007 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481
But why not just retire him now, i mean, lets just keep extrapolating data from his first start. It's quite obvious he will win the triple crown, BCC and remain undefeated as long as he runs. Lets just save the horse from having to exert himself and put him in the shed now. Saves time don't ya think :)

you have valid points!

still, i prefer that people's hopes get stirred up and then let down.

10 pnt move up 08-08-2007 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by boswd
Don't get me wrong I am the biggest east coast supporter but this was part of the whole Zayat/Baffert Del Mar exodus. If Del Mar never switched to Poly he would have raced at Del Mar

it is what it is, train at del mar, race at saratoga

this horse was coming before the move happened.

10 pnt move up 08-08-2007 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
Like his fragile sire, he'll never see the Triple Crown trail.

Vindicaton was made of glass

El Correador had foot problems

Roman Ruler had foot problems

The chances this guy has any soundness is iffy at best.

skippy3481 08-08-2007 01:03 PM

I understand let them lock in those futures on him winning the derby after he sets track records at 4 diffrent tracks and distances and he comes up lame 2 weeks before the big day. I like how you think.

Indian Charlie 08-08-2007 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481
I understand let them lock in those futures on him winning the derby after he sets track records at 4 diffrent tracks and distances and he comes up lame 2 weeks before the big day. I like how you think.

thanks!

but, how about doing it ap indy style, where you wake up to riots in LA (i lived there at the time) and find out that ap indy was scratched the morning of the derby because of his foot problem.

that was a HUGE letdown man. i'd like to see that happen again, with the younger generation.

Indian Charlie 08-08-2007 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
You mean, those riots were caused by AP Indy's scratching that morning?

duh

Left Bank 08-08-2007 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by boswd
Don't get me wrong I am the biggest east coast supporter but this was part of the whole Zayat/Baffert Del Mar exodus. If Del Mar never switched to Poly he would have raced at Del Mar

My bet is they when they ship him back to run in SOCAL he will get beat by a cheap claiming horse.

Cajungator26 08-08-2007 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
Vindicaton was made of glass

El Correador had foot problems

Roman Ruler had foot problems

The chances this guy has any soundness is iffy at best.

I haven't seen the race, but I heard that he has a nice way of going so that he's not too hard on his legs. Who knows. It seems like the ones that are extremely fast and talented are always the ones that hurt themselves the easiest.


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