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Danzig 08-02-2007 02:50 PM

obama-invade pakistan
 
barrack obama has been critical of clinton and other dems for voting for the iraq war.
now he says we need to go into pakistan, that musharef isn't doing enough to rid his country of terrorists. he wants out of iraq, more troops in afganistan, and open a front in pakistan.

good idea or bad idea?

brianwspencer 08-02-2007 03:04 PM

Terrible idea.

Danzig 08-02-2007 03:12 PM

i think barack is doing exactly what i thought would happen...exposing his lack of knowledge and experience, particularly regarding foreign policy. he wants to meet with rogue nations, withouth condition, and then broaches the idea of invading an ally. now pakistan is no england or israel, but they are considered an ally all the same....i agree that they should do more, and i am heartened by a possible power sharing deal between musharaf and bhutto. i think that would be a step in the right direction.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...into_pakistan/

horseofcourse 08-02-2007 03:24 PM

That's just playing pin the tail on the donkey picking countries to invade like our current president has. Ridiculous concept.

if I here "war on terror" one more time I will gag. One of the worst concepts in the history of the planet.

hi_im_god 08-02-2007 04:08 PM

"if I here "war on terror" one more time I will gag. One of the worst concepts in the history of the planet."

cosign.

we've had a very hard time with our wars on nouns. did we defeat drugs yet? has poverty surrendered?

i hope we never try to take on a verb. i hear action words are tougher.

Danzig 08-02-2007 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
"if I here "war on terror" one more time I will gag. One of the worst concepts in the history of the planet."

cosign.

we've have a very hard time with our wars on nouns. did we defeat drugs yet? has poverty surrendered?

i hope we never try to take on a verb. i hear action words are tougher.

just imagine if they start adding adverbs....

it's like the election season, i'll fight for you, we're on the attack, etc. everything is a battle.

like i heard the other day, we're trying to use our military for a job that belongs to the police. they aren't interchangeable, much as we'd like to hammer things into submission.

timmgirvan 08-02-2007 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
i think barack is doing exactly what i thought would happen...exposing his lack of knowledge and experience, particularly regarding foreign policy. he wants to meet with rogue nations, withouth condition, and then broaches the idea of invading an ally. now pakistan is no england or israel, but they are considered an ally all the same....i agree that they should do more, and i am heartened by a possible power sharing deal between musharaf and bhutto. i think that would be a step in the right direction.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...into_pakistan/

So true! I think Superman needs a few more years of seasoning! Not-read-for-primetime,Baby!

Danzig 08-02-2007 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
So true! I think Superman needs a few more years of seasoning! Not-read-for-primetime,Baby!

i think he exposed himself (and his aides) very badly here. who is helping him put this stuff together? and are they the ones who will be filling positions if he should actually happen to be elected?

not superman yet--maybe a boy wonder. he needs to go back to foreign policy 101.

timmgirvan 08-02-2007 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i think he exposed himself (and his aides) very badly here. who is helping him put this stuff together? and are they the ones who will be filling positions if he should actually happen to be elected?

not superman yet--maybe a boy wonder. he needs to go back to foreign policy 101.

You didn't see him standing underneath the Superman statue?

Danzig 08-02-2007 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
You didn't see him standing underneath the Superman statue?


lol

he wishes.

perhaps there was kryptonite nearby, and he started feeling whoozy. how else explain his plans to invade pakistan?

timmgirvan 08-02-2007 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
lol

he wishes.

perhaps there was kryptonite nearby, and he started feeling whoozy. how else explain his plans to invade pakistan?

I think the photo was on Drudge!

pgardn 08-02-2007 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
i think barack is doing exactly what i thought would happen...exposing his lack of knowledge and experience, particularly regarding foreign policy. he wants to meet with rogue nations, withouth condition, and then broaches the idea of invading an ally. now pakistan is no england or israel, but they are considered an ally all the same....i agree that they should do more, and i am heartened by a possible power sharing deal between musharaf and bhutto. i think that would be a step in the right direction.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...into_pakistan/

He is playing a dangerous political game. A slap at the Clinton's. I hope he was informed Pakistan has nukes. Sad to say, but these countries must be dealt with differently. Pakistan is an ally only in that their government has made attempts to help in certain situations. But a very significant portion of the population is rabidly anti US (many for religious reasons, others because we are more friendly with their most hated neighbor, India). Their political leaders know this. Very unstable situation in that country.

SniperSB23 08-03-2007 12:44 AM

I think you are all crazy. God forbid we start hunting down the people we actually need to find and instead go after the easy targets.

timmgirvan 08-03-2007 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I think you are all crazy. God forbid we start hunting down the people we actually need to find and instead go after the easy targets.

Surely you're speaking of Obama!

ArlJim78 08-03-2007 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I think you are all crazy. God forbid we start hunting down the people we actually need to find and instead go after the easy targets.

we've been trying to hunt them down, the problem is that they're in Pakistan.
An invasion/military operation is out of the question. This country is basically an ally only because of Musharaf who is hanging on by a string. Large sections of their muslim population hate us, and its a very populous nation.

Oh, and by the way, they have nuclear weapons.

Obama chances are now gone, finished. He is exposed as a lightweight anti-war candidate who wants to invade an ally with nuclear weapons.

do you really feel Iraq has been easy?

Danzig 08-03-2007 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
He is playing a dangerous political game. A slap at the Clinton's. I hope he was informed Pakistan has nukes. Sad to say, but these countries must be dealt with differently. Pakistan is an ally only in that their government has made attempts to help in certain situations. But a very significant portion of the population is rabidly anti US (many for religious reasons, others because we are more friendly with their most hated neighbor, India). Their political leaders know this. Very unstable situation in that country.

which is why it is madness for obama to suggest this-just think what that group will want to do now!

then again, tis madness to ever announce something like this ahead of time! what's that line in the godfather? never let them know what you're thinking.

Danzig 08-03-2007 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
we've been trying to hunt them down, the problem is that they're in Pakistan.
An invasion/military operation is out of the question. This country is basically an ally only because of Musharaf who is hanging on by a string. Large sections of their muslim population hate us, and its a very populous nation.

Oh, and by the way, they have nuclear weapons.

Obama chances are now gone, finished. He is exposed as a lightweight anti-war candidate who wants to invade an ally with nuclear weapons.

do you really feel Iraq has been easy?

i agree. he didn't shoot himself in the foot, he blew it off clean.


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