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sumitas 07-17-2007 10:38 PM

Does NY need a new track if AQU goes?
 
It seems this topic may need a thread of it's own. Shooting from the hip, brainstorming I guess, if the Big A is sold then Belmont alone cannot handle all the horses and racing year round. The logistics of that raise many, many red flags.

So here's an opportunity however. Sell the Big A and a new track must be built. It creates an opportunity for the Big A parcel and a new track creates an opportunity in a new NY location. Where would you like to see a new track built to replace the Big A development into a Walmart ?

Cannon Shell 07-17-2007 10:42 PM

Fonda

sumitas 07-17-2007 10:52 PM

I live in NYS and I have no idea where Fonda is :D ...So, to help others here's the map;

http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result.ph...+United+States

estreetposse 07-18-2007 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Fonda


Turn the Dirt track for Cars into one for horses? hmmmm...I love it!!!!

fpsoxfan 07-18-2007 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by estreetposse
Turn the Dirt track for Cars into one for horses? hmmmm...I love it!!!!

Great to hear from you Mr. E-Street. Are we still on for next Wednesday?

scanman 07-18-2007 08:17 AM

Does NY need a new track if A is sold? No.

I can't possibly think of where to put another track in NY. NYRA should take the money and put it into Belmont and Saratoga. I'm sure the windfall would be best spent sprucing up both of those facilities. At a minimum, it sounds like they could both make life a lot better by renovating (or rebuilding) the quarters for the stable staff at both tracks.

As far as dates, run Belmont April-Jun and Sep-Nov; Saratoga Jul-Aug. No need for winter racing because once PA start pumping the slot revenue into purses at Penn National and Philly Park they will be on par with (if not exceed) NY. The horses that don't head south to Miami or New Orleans can race there.

Kasept 07-18-2007 08:18 AM

There will not be a new track built in the Metropolitan area. There would be barns added at Belmont for the horses stabled at AQU. In terms of the winter racing, the logical thing to do is rebuild the BEL training track with a Poly surface and build a small state of the art simulcast/broadcast viewing pavillion as the Grandstand/Clubhouse.

Storm Cadet 07-18-2007 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
There will not be a new track built in the Metropolitan area. There would be barns added at Belmont for the horses stabled at AQU. In terms of the winter racing, the logical thing to do is rebuild the BEL training track with a Poly surface and build a small state of the art simulcast/broadcast viewing pavillion as the Grandstand/Clubhouse.

Good idea, where would you place the pavilion? Near or in place of the present clockers stand on the TT?

Also, we might have to lose some of the backstretch parking lot for new barns or use the area right behind the 1st turn on the TT where those soccer/softball fields are located.

SniperSB23 07-18-2007 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by scanman
Does NY need a new track if A is sold? No.

I can't possibly think of where to put another track in NY. NYRA should take the money and put it into Belmont and Saratoga. I'm sure the windfall would be best spent sprucing up both of those facilities. At a minimum, it sounds like they could both make life a lot better by renovating (or rebuilding) the quarters for the stable staff at both tracks.

As far as dates, run Belmont April-Jun and Sep-Nov; Saratoga Jul-Aug. No need for winter racing because once PA start pumping the slot revenue into purses at Penn National and Philly Park they will be on par with (if not exceed) NY. The horses that don't head south to Miami or New Orleans can race there.

I'd open Belmont in mid-February for two preps into the Wood Memorial. Run it until Saratoga starts 4th of July. Saratoga runs through Labor Day and then Belmont runs from there until Thanksgiving culminating with the Cigar Mile. No racing in December or January.

philcski 07-18-2007 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I'd open Belmont in mid-February for two preps into the Wood Memorial. Run it until Saratoga starts 4th of July. Saratoga runs through Labor Day and the Belmont runs from there until Thanksgiving culminating with the Cigar Mile. No racing in December or January.

That would be... completely logical!

fpsoxfan 07-18-2007 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
That would be... completely logical!

I'd like to see that. Maybe a tad early on the start of the Spa meet, but overall it looks like a good plan.

SniperSB23 07-18-2007 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
That would be... completely logical!

Oh, and you also need to boost the purse of that February Wood prep to get it graded status for it to make any sense to open that early.

boswd 07-18-2007 11:33 AM

I would like to see NYRA buy Finger Lakes and build it up to match it's location. It's arguably the most beutiful part of NY state but the track is a dump.

Cannon Shell 07-18-2007 11:38 AM

Greenwich, NY would be a great place for a track.

gamblin4ever 07-18-2007 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I'd open Belmont in mid-February for two preps into the Wood Memorial. Run it until Saratoga starts 4th of July. Saratoga runs through Labor Day and then Belmont runs from there until Thanksgiving culminating with the Cigar Mile. No racing in December or January.

Great idea

Benevolus 07-18-2007 02:47 PM

Tear down the Belmont grandstands and build something similar to Churchill with skyboxes and hold concerts, weddings, etc. at Belmont like they do at Churchill.

Downthestretch55 07-18-2007 02:56 PM

This might sound crazy, but if Monticello could be had, and switched over to t-breds, and an all season surface put in, it would be a good location for the NY bettors.

Hickory Hill Hoff 07-18-2007 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Fonda


God knows Montgomery County and the Mohawk Valley could use it! :rolleyes:
The "powers to be" around here could f-up a wet dream!

fpsoxfan 07-18-2007 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
God knows Montgomery County and the Mohawk Valley could use it! :rolleyes:
The "powers to be" around here could f-up a wet dream!

I think I've done that before. :eek:

Hickory Hill Hoff 07-18-2007 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan
I think I've done that before. :eek:

Nice avatar...can we guess which one is in law enforcement! :D


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