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Benevolus 07-06-2007 01:20 PM

Crossing the Line vs George Washington
 
How long before Darley buys Crossing the Line so they can take on Coolmore's George Washington in the BC Mile? Interestingly, Darley owns Cape Cross, the sire of Ouija Board and Crossing the Line. I give it a few weeks and Darley will own him. I say $5M gets it done.

Right now I would give the nod to Crossing the Line to beat Coolmore's horse. Kip Deville might be able to give both a little scare but I doubt he could beat them.

Indian Charlie 07-06-2007 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Benevolus
How long before Darley buys Crossing the Line so they can take on Coolmore's George Washington in the BC Mile? Interestingly, Darley owns Cape Cross, the sire of Ouija Board and Crossing the Line. I give it a few weeks and Darley will own him. I say $5M gets it done.

Right now I would give the nod to Crossing the Line to beat Coolmore's horse. Kip Deville might be able to give both a little scare but I doubt he could beat them.

CTL is a gelding though. not sure they'd fork over 5 mil for a gelding.

The Bid 07-06-2007 01:29 PM

Not sure Kip Deville would warm either of them up. They paid alot for Thors Echo, they do some crazy things

Benevolus 07-06-2007 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
CTL is a gelding though. not sure they'd fork over 5 mil for a gelding.

If he wasn't a gelding I would think it would take a lot more than $5M. I was thinking $5M simply because an owner would have to think $5M is the upside possibility for lifetime earnings.

I could be wrong about CTL, but I don't remember seeing any horse as good as him on the turf. I know one is turf and one is dirt, but other than that performance by Candy Ride a few years back, I don't remember ever seeing a horse like CTL.

Indian Charlie 07-06-2007 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Benevolus
If he wasn't a gelding I would think it would take a lot more than $5M. I was thinking $5M simply because an owner would have to think $5M is the upside possibility for lifetime earnings.

I could be wrong about CTL, but I don't remember seeing any horse as good as him on the turf. I know one is turf and one is dirt, but other than that performance by Candy Ride a few years back, I don't remember ever seeing a horse like CTL.

barbaro.

as a 2yo, i thought he was one of the 3 best turf horses i've ever seen.
his races were literally unbelievable.

Benevolus 07-06-2007 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
barbaro.

as a 2yo, i thought he was one of the 3 best turf horses i've ever seen.
his races were literally unbelievable.

You are probably right. CTL though does look like he fits in with Barbaro. Not too many horse come home in 22.

theiman 07-06-2007 04:13 PM

CTL is still half owned by the NZ connections.
The trainer down in Kiwi Land say he might have more to ship.

I would think the NZ connections would have no problem selling for big bucks. He seems very happy winning the two allowance races.

Slewbopper 07-06-2007 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Benevolus
If he wasn't a gelding I would think it would take a lot more than $5M. I was thinking $5M simply because an owner would have to think $5M is the upside possibility for lifetime earnings.

I could be wrong about CTL, but I don't remember seeing any horse as good as him on the turf. I know one is turf and one is dirt, but other than that performance by Candy Ride a few years back, I don't remember ever seeing a horse like CTL.

You need to get your mind right Luke. Nobody, not even the rag heads, pay 5 mil for a gelding.

Danzig 07-06-2007 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Slewbopper
You need to get your mind right Luke. Nobody, not even the rag heads, pay 5 mil for a gelding.

is that really necessary?

Antitrust32 07-06-2007 04:55 PM

how much did they pay for thor's echo?

The Bid 07-06-2007 05:03 PM

About that.

Benevolus 07-06-2007 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Slewbopper
You need to get your mind right Luke. Nobody, not even the rag heads, pay 5 mil for a gelding.

The BC Mile is worth $2M, and the Dubai Duty Free is a turf race about 9F that is worth $5M. I really don't think $5M for a gelding is asking too much if you think you can run the horse in those type of races for 2 or 3 years.

They are interested in winning. Money has nothing to do with anything to them. Coolmore is interested in money, but Maktoum is interested in winning. He makes more in a day from oil than he makes in an entire year in purse money.


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