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Benevolus 06-27-2007 04:41 PM

Leparoux wins 6 today at Churchill
 
The guy was unbelievable. Won 6 races at Churchill. The first 4 in a row. Not bad. Probably the next big jockey. I say him and Jara te the sport the next 10-15 years.

Left Bank 06-27-2007 04:45 PM

I think Jara is washed up,and anybody can win 6 races if you have a great agent like Julian does!

SentToStud 06-27-2007 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Benevolus
The guy was unbelievable. Won 6 races at Churchill. The first 4 in a row. Not bad. Probably the next big jockey. I say him and Jara te the sport the next 10-15 years.

Leparoux is good. I used to think the same of Jara until I saw him every day at Gulfstream. I was not very impressed. He'll be hard pressed to ever repeat the year he had in '06. Right now, he's a cut below Elvis Trujillo.

Cannon Shell 06-27-2007 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmeastar
I think Jara is washed up,and anybody can win 6 races if you have a great agent like he does!

Jara'a agent or Leparoux's?

Left Bank 06-27-2007 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Jara'a agent or Leparoux's?

Jara is washed up and Leparaux has a great agent

Cannon Shell 06-27-2007 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmeastar
Jara is washed up and Leparaux has a great agent

Steve Bass is a friend of mine and I have to say that he never had much success as an agent until he hooked up with Julian. I think he has done a good job with Julian but even the best agent cant do well if the jockey screws up the live horses he gets them on.

Cannon Shell 06-27-2007 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmeastar
Jara is washed up and Leparaux has a great agent

Andy will disagree with your assesment of Jara because he will say you have to be good at some point in order to be washed up.

ateamstupid 06-27-2007 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Benevolus
The guy was unbelievable. Won 6 races at Churchill. The first 4 in a row. Not bad. Probably the next big jockey. I say him and Jara te the sport the next 10-15 years.

In case you haven't noticed, Jara's having some real trouble getting good mounts this year, even with last year's success.

I'm not a Leparoux fan, I think he rides way too confidently way too often, but he certainly has avoided the curse that seems to plague hot bug riders when they lose their bug.

infield_line 06-27-2007 05:30 PM

I Can Only Speak For Myself..
 
but I will never bet against JL on turf/poly... and I have to be convinced he's riding a donkey on dirt... he's just beat me too many times

I/L

Coach Pants 06-27-2007 05:34 PM

I was shouting Viva La France when he got the heater in the feature. Had him singled and thought for sure he didn't get there. Gotta hand it to the guy, he put on a clinic out there today.

tiznowthegreat 06-27-2007 08:32 PM

Wow, comparing Jara to Lep - that's not even close. And also saying anybody can win 6 with a great agent - get serious. People need to start giving Julien his props. The kid is flat sick and one of the best in the country.

ALostTexan 06-27-2007 08:35 PM

I think he would have to be in the Top 20 right now, great agent or not...

Left Bank 06-27-2007 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tiznowthegreat
Wow, comparing Jara to Lep - that's not even close. And also saying anybody can win 6 with a great agent - get serious. People need to start giving Julien his props. The kid is flat sick and one of the best in the country.

Okay,lets look at a theoretical situation.If Biancone never took him under his wing and gave him all kinds of good mounts,and he just had an average agent,this conversation most likely would not be taking place right now.

_ed_ 06-27-2007 08:54 PM

But those things only happened because people saw the ability the guy had. I don't think Biancone or a top agent would waste their time with an average jockey.

And also, regardless of the ability of the agent, the trainers of the horses have to have been sufficiently impressed by the way he rides to agree to have him on their runners. I doubt they all decide simply on the basis of the number of wins he's had.

Left Bank 06-27-2007 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by _ed_
But those things only happened because people saw the ability the guy had. I don't think Biancone or a top agent would waste their time with an average jockey.

And also, regardless of the ability of the agent, the trainers of the horses have to have been sufficiently impressed by the way he rides to agree to have him on their runners. I doubt they all decide simply on the basis of the number of wins he's had.

Agreed.But If say,Bejarano rode all the horses Leparoux rode at CD today,it would have been Rafael with the six wins.

robfla 06-27-2007 09:18 PM

to compare JuLep to Jara is like comparing Elizabeth Hurley to Rosanne Barr.

You tell me:


Zaf 06-27-2007 10:02 PM

I think Julien has been consistently good, Jara on the other hand has won some BIG, BIG races. Giving them both the benefit of the doubt, youth is definately on their side.

VOL JACK 06-27-2007 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaf
I think Julien has been consistently good, Jara on the other hand has won some BIG, BIG races. Giving them both the benefit of the doubt, youth is definately on their side.

I could of won on Invasor, and I weigh 250....

disappearingdan_akaplaya 06-27-2007 11:20 PM

julians light years ahead of jara, dont know how ya could even compare the 2

ateamstupid 06-27-2007 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
I could of won on Invasor, and I weigh 250....

I'm pretty sure Invasor would've lost that photo in the Whitney with you aboard.


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