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miles2135 06-25-2007 08:55 PM

If you called the shots on Rags to Riches.......
 
What would you do?

She has won 4 Grade 1's

3 against 3yo fillies: Las Virgenes, Santa Anita Oaks, and the Kentucky Oaks

1 against 3yo males: The Belmont

If she wins the CCA that will be her 5th grade 1 win and 4th against 3yo fillies which means she already has that division locked up. She then has the choice to run in the Alabama Stakes against 3yo fillies at Saratoga or the Travers. After that she could take on the older mares in the Ruffian, Beldame, or the Spinster at Keeneland. etc. She then would go to the breeders cup. What would your schedule to the breeders cup be? What race in the BC would you run her in?

With the retirement of Invasor she has a serious shot at winning Horse of the Year.

Zaf 06-25-2007 08:57 PM

Travers !!!

Sightseek 06-25-2007 08:58 PM

I'd keep her against fillies and see how the Classic comes up and of course kick major ass next year too! :cool:

Hickory Hill Hoff 06-25-2007 09:08 PM

CCA Oaks....Alabama....easy prep for....Breeder's Cup Turf!

that way she would have beat the boys twice @ a mile & a half on both surfaces.

gamblin4ever 06-25-2007 09:09 PM

Give her small break, then 1st race back against fillies/mares, 2nd back -males
then breeders classic,breather until 4yr old season -point to Dubai classic.
LET'S SEE HOW GOOD SHE REALLY IS!!!!!

Rileyoriley 06-25-2007 09:09 PM

I'd run her in the Haskell to get a race over the BC track, Alabama, Beldame, and then make a decision on the BC depending on her Haskell race and who's left for the Classic.

Cannon Shell 06-25-2007 09:37 PM

I'd sell her

letswastemoney 06-25-2007 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamblin4ever
Give her small break, then 1st race back against fillies/mares, 2nd back -males
then breeders classic,breather until 4yr old season -point to Dubai classic.
LET'S SEE HOW GOOD SHE REALLY IS!!!!!

Nooo....I don't like the Dubai classic or Dubai anything....Aiming for the Breeder's Cup Classic is fine. Just keep her in the States :cool:

ateamstupid 06-25-2007 09:47 PM

If I owned her? I'd sell her right away.

If I were Tabor though, I'd go CCA Oaks, Travers, Beldame and BC Classic.

_ed_ 06-25-2007 11:34 PM

Surprised to see people saying they'd sell her. If I owned a horse that good there'd be no amount of money big enough to sell her.

Coach Pants 06-25-2007 11:38 PM

I'd sell her to the top slaughterhouse in France on the condition that I get first dibs on her hind quarter.

letswastemoney 06-25-2007 11:42 PM

Her name doesn't make sense. She cost $1,900,000, yet she's called Rags to Riches lol.

Zaf 06-26-2007 12:19 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdu96Karizs

hi_im_god 06-26-2007 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ed_
Surprised to see people saying they'd sell her. If I owned a horse that good there'd be no amount of money big enough to sell her.

if i owned her she'd be the largest asset i had by at least 40x and i'd want to diversify.

you only think you'd keep her. you'd live far beyond your present means for the rest of your life or...

have the pride of running her again.

as marsellus says to butch, "you'll feel a small twinge...that's pride"

the next line from that movie is how i feel.

_ed_ 06-26-2007 01:17 AM

But she's already won $1.2 million, that's plenty of money in my opinion.

It's not just the pride of seeing her run, if I had a horse who won even one of those great races the horse would become more than just an asset. I'd feel strongly attached to the horse, who would almost be part of the family.

I'd keep her. I guess it's understandable to feel otherwise, but I'd rather have $1 million and one of the best horses of her generation than lose her in exchange for more money than I'd ever need.

RolloTomasi 06-26-2007 02:15 AM

Test-Alabama-Ruffian-Jockey Club Gold Cup-BC Distaff-retire.

The way Pletcher's barn is holding together, the gut-wrenching stretch duel with Curlin, the ominous stumble at the start, and the probable presence of solid fillies with equally stamina-laden pedigrees (Christmas Kid and Boca Grande), all make her somewhat vulnerable in the 10f CCA Oaks. And if she loses that, she's likely to be retired immediately.

Losing the Test won't mean anything, would showcase her versatility if she won, and at the very least would be a great tune-up for the late season campaign.

Bigsmc 06-26-2007 04:13 AM

She's done enough. Send her to The Green Monkey as soon as he comes up with a minor injury and is retired before his deubt.

Danzig 06-26-2007 05:34 AM

if you're in the business for the long haul, or not on your deathbed, you sell. risk vs return, future racing endeavors, etc....

situations like this remind me of those two lucky fellows who took out second mortgages on their houses, and bought a filly who turned out to be special. she's a devil due--they turned down offers while she was racing, and refused to sell her as a broodmare when she retired. we'll breed her ourselves they said...she died foaling, and the foal was lost as well. it doesn't always happen, but it does happen.

so, if you're filthy rich and can afford any horses you want--by all means, keep her. but the question was if you or i had her--now, i may be wrong--but i don't think anyone here is filthy rich!!


as for her schedule, i'd prep her vs fillies, and if she's doing well, run in the travers. then see how things go--but i'd probably run her in the distaff---but with invasor retiring, the classic doesn't seem as daunting of a task.

Sightseek 06-26-2007 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _ed_
But she's already won $1.2 million, that's plenty of money in my opinion.

It's not just the pride of seeing her run, if I had a horse who won even one of those great races the horse would become more than just an asset. I'd feel strongly attached to the horse, who would almost be part of the family.

I'd keep her. I guess it's understandable to feel otherwise, but I'd rather have $1 million and one of the best horses of her generation than lose her in exchange for more money than I'd ever need.

I'd feel the same. In order to purchase a horse like that you have to figure you already have a lot of money so I'd want to chase after the record books. I guess fame means more to me than fortune. ;)

whodey17 06-26-2007 12:14 PM

If I owned her, I would sell her with a reserve of $10mm.


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