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CapperZeke 06-18-2007 09:34 AM

Beyer Pars
 
I know there posted in Simulcast Weekly but does anyone have them readily available. Thanks in advance.

robfla 06-18-2007 09:38 AM

according to drf:


On the Beyer scale of numbers, the very best stakes horses in the country earn figures in the 120's. Good allowance horses or low-grade stakes horses run around 100. A typical $25,000 claiming race would be run in the low 90s, a $10,000 claiming race in the low to mid 80s. The average winning figure for bottom-level $2,500 claimers at smaller tracks is 57.

A horse who earns a 90 has run faster than one who runs an 80. In this system of numbers, 2 1/2 points are roughly equal to one length in sprints, and 2 points to one length in routes.

http://www.drf2000.com/help/help_howto.html

http://www.drf2000.com/help/help_speedrate.html

robfla 06-18-2007 09:46 AM

Here is the "Best Beyer" Leaderboard:

http://www.drf.com/drfLeaderBoard.do?category=beyer

CapperZeke 06-18-2007 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CapperZeke
I know there posted in Simulcast Weekly but does anyone have them readily available. Thanks in advance.

I forgot to add Beyer Pars for Belmont.

philcski 06-18-2007 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfla
according to drf:


On the Beyer scale of numbers, the very best stakes horses in the country earn figures in the 120's. Good allowance horses or low-grade stakes horses run around 100. A typical $25,000 claiming race would be run in the low 90s, a $10,000 claiming race in the low to mid 80s. The average winning figure for bottom-level $2,500 claimers at smaller tracks is 57.

A horse who earns a 90 has run faster than one who runs an 80. In this system of numbers, 2 1/2 points are roughly equal to one length in sprints, and 2 points to one length in routes.

http://www.drf2000.com/help/help_howto.html

http://www.drf2000.com/help/help_speedrate.html

These pars are no longer correct. 10K claimers run a lot slower than mid-80's; it's more like 69-72 in NY, and 20K claimers 73-76.

A 100 is good enough to win the majority of G3's these days.

blackthroatedwind 06-18-2007 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
These pars are no longer correct. 10K claimers run a lot slower than mid-80's; it's more like 69-72 in NY, and 20K claimers 73-76.

A 100 is good enough to win the majority of G3's these days.

And 105 makes you a Grade 1 winner and, according to some, new contenders for the BC Classic.

philcski 06-18-2007 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
And 105 makes you a Grade 1 winner and, according to some, new contenders for the BC Classic.

.... which is why the Stephen Foster should be downgraded to a G2.

Nothing against Flashy Bull, who has come back at 4 a solid animal, but that was about the worst G1 field I've seen. Not to mention last year's 100-1 slugfest winner and the year before's 60-1 mess.

If Invasor wasn't around, Flashy Bull WOULD be a Classic contender with a 109-107-105 Beyer trio. The handicap division is a mess.

Sightseek 06-18-2007 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
.... which is why the Stephen Foster should be downgraded to a G2.

Nothing against Flashy Bull, who has come back at 4 a solid animal, but that was about the worst G1 field I've seen. Not to mention last year's 100-1 slugfest winner and the year before's 60-1 mess.
If Invasor wasn't around, Flashy Bull WOULD be a Classic contender with a 109-107-105 Beyer trio. The handicap division is a mess.

Saint Liam's win was between those two.

philcski 06-18-2007 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Saint Liam's win was between those two.

Correct, thank you. Colonial Colony was 2004.

robfla 06-18-2007 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Correct, thank you. Colonial Colony was 2004.

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now THAT was an ugly race. I still have nightmares about that race.

letswastemoney 06-18-2007 04:52 PM

Not even Invasor has a beyer in the 120s.


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