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Kasept 06-17-2007 07:42 PM

P6 SYMPOSIUM: Carryover Contest
 
Good opportunity again for another DT Carryover Experience...

Hollywood ($180k), Churchill ($97k) and Belmont ($72k) all have carries... Last time we did this it was a very worthwhile endeavor... We had a ball and I think everyone learned a lot about ticket structure, investment strategies, etc.

$2,500 bankroll... and I'll see if Andy is willing to moderate again...

I plan to have Brad Free and 2 more guests on 'ATR' to cap the '6's' on Tuesday...

Thoughts? Just the HOL carry? Or any one (or more) that anyone wants to enter? I'll offer "DT/ATR" prizes again...

GPK 06-17-2007 07:59 PM

Im down for sh*ts and giggles.

Need some work on my capping anyways...


I would prefer Belmont as opposed to Holly or Church.....but I will go with whatever we decide.

Storm Cadet 06-17-2007 08:00 PM

:) Count me in

blackthroatedwind 06-17-2007 08:00 PM

I think it's fine to use all three.....though people can play any or all. Plays MUST be between $2400 and $2500 for each carryover and multiple tickets are encouraged.

pmacdaddy 06-17-2007 08:21 PM

Sounds good....

I'm a definite for BEL, most likely HOL too.

declansharbor 06-17-2007 08:25 PM

I would like to take a shot in the dark. Sounds interesting.

Kasept 06-17-2007 09:27 PM

The original Contest/Symposium thread... http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9062

Noodles 06-17-2007 10:32 PM

I will take a crack at Belmont

Gauchos0522 06-17-2007 10:53 PM

Prolly just BEL and HOL but I might look at CD as well for the hell of it. Good call...

pointman 06-17-2007 11:56 PM

Count me in.

Kasept 06-18-2007 06:26 AM

Keep in mind the intent of the "Symposium/Exercise" is to hone our collective skills building P6 tickets using Steve Crist's A-B-C-X method with multiple tickets that weigh 'prime includes' and 'backup options' (as opposed to the equally weighted style 'caveman' tickets).

If you weren't on DT for our first pass at this, read through the linked thread (above, or in the Charles Hatton Reading Room) to get a feel for what we were trying to accopmplish... Andy Serling, who has hit two $100,000+ P6's, will be available as moderator to help explain building these plays. The exercise is intended to demonstrate how difficult it is to hit P6's, even with 'big money', and was tremendously helpful and fun when we did it a few months back...

Prizes for all three P6 opps Wednesday including 'ATR' and 'DT' swag and DRF Press publications (like Crist's Exotic Betting book)..

'At the Races' will also feature special coverage of the P6's today, Tuesday and Wednesday with Andy, Brad Free, Jon White and others offering their insights on the sextets, and I'll be playing as many of the races live on the show Wedneday as possible (BEL 7th-9th; CD 7th-9th; HOL 3rd-6th)...

ceejay 06-18-2007 08:08 AM

Looks like fun. I might give one of these a run with real $$, though not $2.5K!

Sightseek 06-18-2007 08:43 AM

I'm in.

Thanks for doing this again Kasept & BTW. :)

ArlJim78 06-18-2007 08:52 AM

I'll do it.

I'll post the winning ticket some time Wednesday morning.:)


for Hollywood that is.

ninetoone 06-18-2007 09:55 AM

I'm in, thanks.

pmacdaddy 06-18-2007 02:57 PM

OK. Took a first look at Belmont.

Certainly need to do further examination and possible regrading. Mainly concerned with a structure that makes sense at this point. Never tried this before for pick6...

Here is what I did:

After grading horses A,B,C,X. I first constructed a strict A,B ticket.
4X2X3X2X3X3=$864

Next thought was to alternate C's with A's in all other races. I had small number of A horses, so I regraded B's to Create B+. Next set to include A's and B+ with C's in any one race. Guess my risk is that if my C's win more than one leg I'm out. Perhaps I should cover multiple C's with leftover cash.

I had C horses in 4 of the 6 races. I used C's in each leg with A, B+ in all others. 4 additional tickets totaling $1,044.

Balance to potentially use covering multiple C's $592.

Main question is does this structure make any sense? Biggest concern right now iis that my main A,B ticket seems short for only 35% of total investment. Am I spending too much on covers?

Thanks

blackthroatedwind 06-18-2007 03:17 PM

Sounds like a reasonable structure to me.

pmacdaddy 06-18-2007 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Sounds like a reasonable structure to me.

Thanks. I will keep working with this general concept and see how it shakes out.

Finding this much harder than I thought...

unassailable08 06-18-2007 05:00 PM

This could be fun
 
I need some experience so are we doing Churchill Belmont or Hollywood or all three.

Thanks for the opportunity Mister Byk

Aaron

ateamstupid 06-18-2007 11:09 PM

I'll probably get in with a Churchill ticket. Thanks much to Steve and Andy for putting this together.


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