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Riot 06-09-2007 08:15 PM

Ruffian Movie is on
 
Hey, everyone on the list now, don't forget the Ruffian movie is playing now ....

Merlinsky 06-09-2007 08:17 PM

Anyone watching the Ruffian movie?
 
I'm sure there's a better spot for this thread but being the day it is and the horse it is and the network it's on, is anybody watching the Ruffian movie and if so, what do you think so far?

Her races are now on Youtube it looks like, from her maiden to the match race. You just get chills looking at the real thing and so far it seems like they're doing a good job on the movie. What do you think of her cinematic doppelgänger?

justindew 06-09-2007 08:17 PM

Who is playing the jockey?

Danzig 06-09-2007 08:18 PM

not watching. from what i've seen, the only good thing in the movie is sam shephard. supposed to be a poor production.

Riot 06-09-2007 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlinsky
What do you think of her cinematic doppelgänger?

Small <g>

I got to watch one of the most spine-tingling, impressive races I'll ever have the pleasure to view today, and now I'm off, glass of wine in hand, to watch another great filly .... see y'all later!

Merlinsky 06-09-2007 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
not watching. from what i've seen, the only good thing in the movie is sam shephard. supposed to be a poor production.

Where'd you hear that from? Nobody I hear talk about it speaks in negative terms as far as the ESPN and Bloodhorse folks who've seen it goes. At least none that I've seen. The fake-Ruffian does seem smaller than you'd expect. She's supposed to be a great big fat filly when she gets to them, with a girth as a young horse that was bigger than Secretariat's at the same age.

Danzig 06-09-2007 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlinsky
Where'd you hear that from? Nobody I hear talk about it speaks in negative terms as far as the ESPN and Bloodhorse folks who've seen it goes. At least none that I've seen. The fake-Ruffian does seem smaller than you'd expect. She's supposed to be a great big fat filly when she gets to them, with a girth as a young horse that was bigger than Secretariat's at the same age.

saw on a few on-line sites that it god bad reviews, some mention on here as well that others heard it wasn't very good.

yeah, ruffian was a big gal, a lot of people mistook her for a colt when they saw her...that was one of her problems, big horse with small feet. she was bigger than foolish pleasure, but wore smaller shoes.

Samarta 06-09-2007 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlinsky
Where'd you hear that from? Nobody I hear talk about it speaks in negative terms as far as the ESPN and Bloodhorse folks who've seen it goes. At least none that I've seen. The fake-Ruffian does seem smaller than you'd expect. She's supposed to be a great big fat filly when she gets to them, with a girth as a young horse that was bigger than Secretariat's at the same age.

I'm exhausted from all the Barbaro stuff...oh and ABC's already wonderful horse production earlier...

Cannon Shell 06-09-2007 08:41 PM

There is no question in my mind that ABC fixed the Belmont so that they would have a natural lead in to the Ruffian movie..

Merlinsky 06-09-2007 09:33 PM

Holy crap, they did a close up of the breakdown on the leg as it happened. I think I'm gonna be sick.

Merlinsky 06-09-2007 09:37 PM

My mom didn't want to watch the movie and I tried to talk her into it. She won't even get a Barbaro Breyer or watch the Barbaro documentaries because of the memories of the Preakness...just thinking about the horse makes her sad, same with Ruffian. I try to spin it in terms of the greatness of their spirit and talk about how much good you can do by helping Barbaro's charity but things like that she just won't hear about.

I'm glad she didn't watch now. This would've made her queasy.

Lava 06-09-2007 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlinsky
My mom didn't want to watch the movie and I tried to talk her into it. She won't even get a Barbaro Breyer or watch the Barbaro documentaries because of the memories of the Preakness...just thinking about the horse makes her sad, same with Ruffian. I try to spin it in terms of the greatness of their spirit and talk about how much good you can do by helping Barbaro's charity but things like that she just won't hear about.

I'm glad she didn't watch now. This would've made her queasy.

I am with your mom I cant watch that stuff the NBC thing on Barbaro was good till they showed the Preakness it still makes me cry

TheSpyder 06-09-2007 10:01 PM

I, for one, thought the movie was great. This life holds many good things as well as bad. Ruffian was both to the extreme and having lived those moments when it happened and now watching the movie, I know why I love horse racing so much. I just love the animals and the game, and everthing that goes into it. Horse racing is life, every part of it.

AeWingnut 06-09-2007 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
There is no question in my mind that ABC fixed the Belmont so that they would have a natural lead in to the Ruffian movie..


lol.. the only reason she won is because I had her running 2nd in my tri

the whole day was bad.

AeWingnut 06-09-2007 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlinsky
Holy crap, they did a close up of the breakdown on the leg as it happened. I think I'm gonna be sick.

I left the room when the match race was coming up.

Suffolk Shippers 06-09-2007 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlinsky
My mom didn't want to watch the movie and I tried to talk her into it. She won't even get a Barbaro Breyer or watch the Barbaro documentaries because of the memories of the Preakness...just thinking about the horse makes her sad, same with Ruffian. I try to spin it in terms of the greatness of their spirit and talk about how much good you can do by helping Barbaro's charity but things like that she just won't hear about.

I'm glad she didn't watch now. This would've made her queasy.

I watched the HBO Barbaro documentary this morning. Really sad, as expected, had me in a downer mood for a few hours.

As for the movie, I think Steve and others said it was terrible more than a few times, and thats how I viewed it going in. Was basically expecting a circus show of misproduction. I wasn't overly impressed, the story telling was mediocre, but Sam Shepard saved it.

mes5107 06-09-2007 10:50 PM

Just got back from Belmont, so I missed it. Does anybody know if they will re-air the movie?

Riot 06-09-2007 10:51 PM

I thought it a typically marvelous Sam Shepard performance, showing how much Whitely loved this horse and the sport.

Whoever played Mike Bell was good - and the guy who plays Minnor the groom - hey, he was Seabiscuits groom, too! (seems this actor has found a niche role)

Yeah, it was technically amaterish regarding the racing and barn scenes, the vet hospital scenes, etc; and the horses they used were quite distracting as they were a bit ... common (they showed a closeup of "Ruffians" leg, the hairy horse leg had skin eruptions! <g> And showing the vet talking to Nack when he just walks up and asks about Ruffian - at the end of her 2-year-old year: "Yes, hairline fracture" - I about died!)

The horses were distracting to me, as TB's fit and on the muscle are just incredibly beautiful and awesomely powerful, people seeing them up close in a paddock for the first time are always amazed ... but I know I'm a hard audience to please in that respect.

I didn't think the closeup of a cannon bone collapsing through into the dirt of the track was needed, but they didn't dwell on it, and I think for the general public watching, having to know how irreversibly severely this filly was injured, it served it's brief, one-second purpose.

They avoided alot of the horribleness of that night - her shock, her lack of stabilization during surgery, the truely rough way she awoke from anesthesia and what happened then that caused her euthanasia, etc.

It was not sensationalized in the least. Very respectful to the filly and her connections.

I thought the nicest part of the film was at the end under closing credits, they showed film of the real Ruffian, winning her races, getting bathed, etc. That was lovely.

Horse racing needs every bit of "open" exposure it can get. I think this helped.


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