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ateamstupid 06-09-2007 07:39 PM

Garret Gomez sucks
 
Sorry, just letting off a little steam, but I'd like someone to find me three worse rides in one day than his gems on Wait a While, Dream Rush and Hard Spun today.

ninetoone 06-09-2007 07:41 PM

Jon Court in the 6th at Hollywood. Has an easy winner and smacks the shiat out of the horse in deep stretch, resulting in a DQ. Thanks Jon! That hurt!

Cannon Shell 06-09-2007 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Sorry, just letting off a little steam, but I'd like someone to find me three worse rides in one day than his gems on Wait a While, Dream Rush and Hard Spun today.

What did he do wrong on Dream Rush? IMO there was no scenario he could have won the 5 horse turf race and personally thought that Hard Spun should have skipped the race.

10 pnt move up 06-09-2007 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
What did he do wrong on Dream Rush? IMO there was no scenario he could have won the 5 horse turf race and personally thought that Hard Spun should have skipped the race.

agree on Dream Rush,

but was up with the stranglehold on Hard Spun?

Bernardini 06-09-2007 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Sorry, just letting off a little steam, but I'd like someone to find me three worse rides in one day than his gems on Wait a While, Dream Rush and Hard Spun today.

GG might be, but tell me about Hard Spun, what are we to do with this colt?? what is his style ?? a stocker? or a pace setter? either way, better horses ran him down.. you saw !!

Bernardini 06-09-2007 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
What did he do wrong on Dream Rush? IMO there was no scenario he could have won the 5 horse turf race and personally thought that Hard Spun should have skipped the race.

agreed!

Cannon Shell 06-09-2007 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
agree on Dream Rush,

but was up with the stranglehold on Hard Spun?

He just did what everyone complained Pino did not do

fpsoxfan 06-09-2007 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Sorry, just letting off a little steam, but I'd like someone to find me three worse rides in one day than his gems on Wait a While, Dream Rush and Hard Spun today.

How about Johnny V though??? He's the guy that's been riding bad?!..??

Samarta 06-09-2007 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
agree on Dream Rush,

but was up with the stranglehold on Hard Spun?

..imo, Hard Spun performed the way he did in spite of the connections. That horse has nothing left....and today was worth a ton of $$$ to them because of the Darley deal....there is no excuse for the way this horse was worked through this whole process....jmo

declansharbor 06-09-2007 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Samarta
..imo, Hard Spun performed the way he did in spite of the connections. That horse has nothing left....and today was worth a ton of $$$ to them because of the Darley deal....there is no excuse for the way this horse was worked through this whole process....jmo


Cut him back to 8-9 furlongs, and there isn't anyone beating him...IMO

Samarta 06-09-2007 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He just did what everyone complained Pino did not do

Chuck,

question about all of this...... if you have a horse that goes through the jockey situation that HS did after Rags to Riches entered do you have reservations....I guess what I'm asking is once you take Pino off, then replace with Gomez, and then Gomez wants off because Rags is now entered, are there any concerns about that? I don't know, that whole thing would just make me uneasy....

ateamstupid 06-09-2007 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
What did he do wrong on Dream Rush? IMO there was no scenario he could have won the 5 horse turf race and personally thought that Hard Spun should have skipped the race.

He strangles the **** out of Wait a While behind a crawling leader, then doesn't do **** to slow Dream Rush down on the front end? That's not bogus to you? And he had Hard Spun all over the f'ing track, man.

golfer 06-09-2007 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Sorry, just letting off a little steam, but I'd like someone to find me three worse rides in one day than his gems on Wait a While, Dream Rush and Hard Spun today.

I agree completely. He sucked on Derby Day, and he sucked today (and I too am letting off some steam).

Samarta 06-09-2007 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
He strangles the **** out of Wait a While behind a crawling leader, then doesn't do **** to slow Dream Rush down on the front end? That's not bogus to you? And he had Hard Spun all over the f'ing track, man.

Wait a While doesn't win regardless.....no front end speed caused her to lose that race...

ateamstupid 06-09-2007 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Samarta
Wait a While doesn't win regardless.....no front end speed caused her to lose that race...

She easily could've been the one on the lead, but Garret decided to choke her and let My Typhoon get away.

Samarta 06-09-2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
She easily could've been the one on the lead, but Garret decided to choke her and let My Typhoon get away.

well maybe..i can understand your point there.....

Cannon Shell 06-09-2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Samarta
Chuck,

question about all of this...... if you have a horse that goes through the jockey situation that HS did after Rags to Riches entered do you have reservations....I guess what I'm asking is once you take Pino off, then replace with Gomez, and then Gomez wants off because Rags is now entered, are there any concerns about that? I don't know, that whole thing would just make me uneasy....

I think he was probably riding to instructions....I'm sure he would have rather won the race but it is a valid point that you want your jockey not thinking that he is not on the horse he thinks is best if they had a choice.

golfer 06-09-2007 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I disagree. Wait A While is not the same filly as last year. She was empty late. Dream Rush was suspect at a mile with her running style and got run down. Hard Spun ran his race, the others were better.

I didn't bet Wait a While, but everyone except GG could see they were crawling... Dream Rush completely alone on the front and the slowest he could go was 1.09?? And Hard Spun may have been cooked, but he rode him like he wished he was on the Filly. Wide, wider and widest!

Samarta 06-09-2007 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I think he was probably riding to instructions....I'm sure he would have rather won the race but it is a valid point that you want your jockey not thinking that he is not on the horse he thinks is best if they had a choice.

that's what I'm saying......especially with the pending sale.....I just think that horse was put in bad spots all over the place...


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