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Seattleallstar 05-24-2007 10:36 AM

NY Knicks im really miffed
 
a team with Curry, Crawford, the franchise, Starubury, Q, lil nate, and the rest of the young talented crew can suck so much. They really surprised me at how bad they are

MaTH716 05-24-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
a team with Curry, Crawford, the franchise, Starubury, Q, lil nate, and the rest of the young talented crew can suck so much. They really surprised me at how bad they are

The organizaion has turned in to a laughing stock. It starts at the top. You have maybe the worst GM in the history of sports. He just goes out and makes bad deal after bad deal. I guess Curry is OK, but he doesn't play any defense and he his lazy (not to mention his heart is a ticking time bomb). What makes it worse, is the he traded for Curry a couple of weeks after he signed Jerome James to an insane contract. If starbury is as good as he thinks, he would not have been traded like 5 times already. Q is ok when he is on the court, but he has what I call Pavanoitits. Lil Nate is nothing more than a thug. You know your franchise is in trouble, when a guy 5'4 is supposed to be the savior. Then they pass on Marcus Williams in the draft to take a guy who might not of even been drafted. Everything he does has no rhyme or reason. Trades a guy big guy Nazr Mohammed for Malik Rose and Rose never comes off the bench. There was a time that I used to live and die with the Knicks, now I loathe them. I want to see them win 2 games next year. They are what's wrong with basketball. A bunch of Primadonna's that do not give a GOD DAMN! They have made 2 hall of fame coaches (Brown & Wilkens) look like jerkoffs. I really wish Dolan would sell the team to someone who will clean house and start all over again. Because they are a joke and until Thomas and crew are out this team will do NOTHING!

Seattleallstar 05-24-2007 10:59 AM

you both forgot to mention Stevie Franchise..heh..

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-24-2007 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Curry sucks, Starbury sucks, Crawford's okay, Richardson is a punk and Isiah is the worst GM/coach in the NBA.

The "whole" Knick organization is pathetic...:rolleyes:

MaTH716 05-24-2007 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
you both forgot to mention Stevie Franchise..heh..

Even at Maryland, I thought he was so over rated, and in Houston he might have been the most over rated player in the NBA!

pmayjr 05-24-2007 06:28 PM

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...and Isiah is the worst GM/coach in the NBA.

I'd actually say Kevin McHale is the worst GM in the NBA. We owe the Celtics and the Clippers our next 2 first-round picks. In trading away those first rounders, we acquired the following stiffs: Marko Jaric, Mark Blount, Ricky Davis, Justin Reed, and Marcus Banks.

Some of those guys are average-above average, but not worth what we gave away. Also the Wolves have no expiring contracts except for Ricky Davis. He can be really good at times, but he has attitude issues. It's a contract year for him, and he'll play out of his mind good, and then the Wolves will be dumb enough to break the bank on him.

So between having no draft picks for the next 2 years (after this draft), having no cap room, and McHale saying he has no intentions of trading Garnett (which I don't believe... he has to), he is the worst GM in the NBA.

BUT!- MY OPINION DOESN'T MATTER, BECAUSE FORBES MAGAZINE RATED HIM THE BEST GM IN ALL OF PROFESSIONAL SPORTS. Matt Millen must've come in at #2, with Isiah a close 3rd. So I must not know what I'm talking about.

SentToStud 05-24-2007 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Curry sucks, Starbury sucks, Crawford's okay, Richardson is a punk and Isiah is the worst GM/coach in the NBA.

Aside from those modest shortcomings, how are they?

I'm not a big Knicks fan by any stretch but don't they have a fairly eccentric owner (some daddymoney guy)? That's probably their biggest problem.

golfer 05-24-2007 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Aside from those modest shortcomings, how are they?

I'm not a big Knicks fan by any stretch but don't they have a fairly eccentric owner (some daddymoney guy)? That's probably their biggest problem.

James Dolan, heads up the Knicks. His father Chuck, is the head of the Cablevision Crime Family;)

SentToStud 05-24-2007 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by golfer
James Dolan, heads up the Knicks. His father Chuck, is the head of the Cablevision Crime Family;)

That's the guy I was thinking of.

Too bad Thomas isn't a good coach. I loved the guy as a player. Everyone would always point to Laimbeer and Mahorn as rough players on those Pistons teams. Noone played rougher than Thomas.

golfer 05-24-2007 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
That's the guy I was thinking of.

Too bad Thomas isn't a good coach. I loved the guy as a player. Everyone would always point to Laimbeer and Mahorn as rough players on those Pistons teams. Noone played rougher than Thomas.

His playing days are long since over... before taking over the Knicks, his most recent claim to "fame" was buying, then bankrupting, the CBA.

pgardn 05-24-2007 08:44 PM

This is one of the sad stories in the NBA. Here you have the greatest city in the world, a city that loves basketball, and you give the people this kind of product. It really is upsetting to me as a fan that a city like this cant put out a decent product.

BTW, Memphis and Boston got what they deserved with the ping-pong balls. They found out why the lottery was made using what I think is a good method to keep teams from tanking.

Boston is also a very sad story. All those great teams and the fans get treated to Paul Pierce every night. The Northeast really needs a decent team other than New Jersey. An east v. west coast rivalry again would be a good thing.

If Utah plays Cleveland in the finals we might have all time low ratings in the US. Heck, San Antonio v. Detroit may bring all time low ratings... for a diff. reason.

Cannon Shell 05-24-2007 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Boston is also a very sad story. All those great teams and the fans get treated to Paul Pierce every night.

Paul Pierce is the only thing worth watching on Boston

pgardn 05-24-2007 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Paul Pierce is the only thing worth watching on Boston

Your cousin is Lawrence Frank.

Pretty tough team to coach I should think.

Cannon Shell 05-24-2007 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Your cousin is Lawrence Frank.

Pretty tough team to coach I should think.

They are all tough in that league

MaTH716 05-25-2007 05:47 AM

I really have a tough time these days watching the NBA. I believe the reason is that the product is just average compared to the way the leauge was in the 80's and 90's. There are some excellent players in the leauge now, but besides Lebron and Kobe the leauge has no buzz. In the 80's and 90's there was so many players Jordan, Magic, Bird, Ewing, Olajuwon, Wilkins, Barkley, Malone etc. Not only the players, it was easy to be passionate about the teams. I loved the Knicks, but I also loved to hate the Pacers and the Pistons. I loved watching teams like the Celtics, Bulls, Hawks, Lakers. It was a great Product. Maybe the product stinks because all guys know how to do is take 3's and dunk, but compared to the 80's & 90's todays game stinks!


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