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Kasept 05-24-2007 08:00 AM

5/24: BELMONT ($40k carry)
 
Thrillingly fun day Wednesday with HOL Carryover Mania, and though taken out early, success of DTers and ATRAB listeners made it riotous.. Congrats to hitters, near-missers and all who took a swipe!

Belmont ($40k) and Golden Gate! ($90k) have carries today...


BELMONT PARK (4th-9th)


4th: MDN CLM, 3+, 8.5f-T P6, P3)

Testy start to P6 with ugly bunch and interesting Patty Reynolds firster..

1. #8 Romp 7-2 WON
2. #6 Caught Stealing 4-1 2nd
A. #9 Star Studded 3-1 4th
B. #4 Five Demon Bag 9-2 5th

LONGSHOT: #3 First Grandson 10-1 3rd

$1 EX: $18.70
$1 TRI: $140.75



5th: ALW/N1X, 3+, 8.5f-T (Grand Slam, P3)

1. #3 LEAR'S PRINCESS 9-5 WON
2. #1e Tagg entry 2-1 2nd
A. #4 Thrice Charmed 10-1 8th
B. #6 Dr. D's Archangel 8-1 4th


6th: NYB-MDN CLM, 3+, 1m (P4, DD)

1. #5 Mansion of Thought 2-1 6th
2. #6 Fiddlers Warrior 9-2 2nd
A. #8 Twaummy 10-1 3rd
B. #1e Galluscio entry 4-1 WON

$1 EX: $28.00
$1 TRI: $109.75



7th: CLM, N2L, 3+, 8.5f-T (P3, Super)

1. #8 John's Call 3-1 WON
2. #6 Exton 2-1 2nd
A. #5 Gift of Valor 6-1 6th
B. #10 Lunenberg 5-1 3rd

LONGSHOT/EXOTICS ADD: #3 Highland Cat 10-1 5th

$1 EX: $12.80
$1 TRI: $52.75



8th: OC/C, 4+, 8.5f (DD)

1. #3 Dark Cheetah 3-1 6th
2. #2 Harlington 2-1 WON
A. #1 Thanks Dubya 8-1 3rd
B. #5 Mustanfar 3-1 5th


9th: MDN CLM, 3+, 8.5f-T (Super)

NOTE: #3 Arcanite a length behind Star Studded (3-1, 4th) a fortnight ago, with #4 Mighty Gigantor another length back after being steadied early.. Big effort by Star Studded, or flop, can offer clue to their use here..

1. #6 Ravens Fan 9-2 6th
2. #5 Dr. Franklin 3-1 4th
A. #1 Star for Tina 10-1 5th
B. #7 Party Jones 5-2 WON

LONGSHOT/SUPER ADD: #9 Festival Hall 8-1 3rd


<$100 P6 Play:

4: 4-6-8
5: 3
6: 5
7: 3-5-6-8
8: 2-3
9: 5-6

3x1x1x4x2x2 = 48 x $2 = $96


<$50 P4 Play:

6: 5
7: 3-5-6-8
8: 2-3
9: 1-3-4-5-6-7

1x4x2x6 = $48


Good luck!
Steve

SentToStud 05-24-2007 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Thrillingly fun day Wednesday with HOL Carryover Mania, and though taken out early, success of DTers and ATRAB listeners made it riotous.. Congrats to hitters, near-missers and all who took a swipe!

Belmont ($40k) and Golden Gate! ($90k) have carries today...


BELMONT PARK (4th-9th)


4th: MDN CLM, 3+, 8.5f-T P6, P3)

Testy start to P6 with ugly bunch and interesting Patty Reynolds firster..

1. #8 Romp 7-2
2. #6 Caught Stealing 4-1
A. #9 Star Studded 3-1
B. #4 Five Demon Bag 9-2

LONGSHOT: #3 First Grandson 10-1


5th: ALW/N1X, 3+, 8.5f-T (Grand Slam, P3)

1. #3 LEAR'S PRINCESS 9-5
2. #1e Tagg entry 2-1
A. #4 Thrice Charmed 10-1
B. #6 Dr. D's Archangel 8-1


6th: NYB-MDN CLM, 3+, 1m (P4, DD)

1. #5 Mansion of Thought 2-1
2. #6 Fiddlers Warrior 9-2
A. #8 Twaummy 10-1
B. #1e Galluscio entry 4-1


7th: CLM, N2L, 3+, 8.5f-T (P3, Super)

1. #8 John's Call 3-1
2. #6 Exton 2-1
A. #5 Gift of Valor 6-1
B. #10 Lunenberg 5-1

LONGSHOT/EXOTICS ADD: #3 Highland Cat 10-1


8th: OC/C, 4+, 8.5f (DD)

1. #3 Dark Cheetah 3-1
2. #2 Harlington 2-1
A. #1 Thanks Dubya 8-1
B. #5 Mustanfar 3-1


9th: MDN CLM, 3+, 8.5f-T (Super)

NOTE: #3 Arcanite a length behind Star Studded (3-1, 4th) a fortnight ago, with #4 Mighty Gigantor another length back after being steadied early.. Big effort by Star Studded, or flop, can offer clue to their use here..

1. #6 Ravens Fan 9-2
2. #5 Dr. Franklin 3-1
A. #1 Star for Tina 10-1
B. #7 Party Jones 5-2

LONGSHOT/SUPER ADD: #9 Festival Hall 8-1 (Famed Saratoga tongue wagger from end of Russo shed!)


<$100 P6 Play:

4: 4-6-8
5: 3
6: 5
7: 3-5-6-8
8: 2-3
9: 5-6

3x1x1x4x2x2 = 48 x $2 = $96


<$50 P4 Play:

6: 5
7: 3-5-6-8
8: 2-3
9: 1-3-4-5-6-7

1x4x2x6 = $48


Good luck!
Steve

I looked at the 8th for over an hour. It's an interesting race and probably a good one to bet against Harlington. I came up with Thanks D ... too slow; Harlington.... too iffy with the ankle; Dark C.... never itm on dirst over 6f; Chowder.... too slow. Mustanfar's run well on dirt vs some decent horses at several tracks; Art Master... can't see Frankel wasting a race, but I could be wrong. I'm seeing 5 and 4. FWIW. Can't hit the barn from a foot away, but I'll be at Calder today giving them hell. good luck.

Antitrust32 05-24-2007 09:39 AM

hey stud, I'm heading to calder today also. Where will you be sitting?

blackthroatedwind 05-24-2007 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SentToStud
I looked at the 8th for over an hour. It's an interesting race and probably a good one to bet against Harlington. I came up with Thanks D ... too slow; Harlington.... too iffy with the ankle; Dark C.... never itm on dirst over 6f; Chowder.... too slow. Mustanfar's run well on dirt vs some decent horses at several tracks; Art Master... can't see Frankel wasting a race, but I could be wrong. I'm seeing 5 and 4. FWIW. Can't hit the barn from a foot away, but I'll be at Calder today giving them hell. good luck.


It's a totally impossible race for pretty much all the reasons you gave. There is basically no way to trust anyone in the race.

SentToStud 05-24-2007 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32
hey stud, I'm heading to calder today also. Where will you be sitting?

all over. pm'd my cell. give a yell if you're out there.

philcski 05-24-2007 10:57 AM

Some thoughts on the card:
R3) Raven H and Stopbluffing are terrible at their ML prices. Neither have run close to par and Stopbluffing's best race was a phony inside post moderate pace waltz on the inner. I like Mission Approved at 4-1 (doubt he ends up at that.) Has enough early pace to stay close and the best closing kick of the bunch plus returns at the same 1-turn mile distance. Would also use Love Abroad in multirace wagers, throw out the last two turf races and the 7.5F dirt effort was very a solid defeat to a decent NYB (Market Psychology).

R5) Tagg's entry will be very tough, especially if both go. If I play the pick 6 I will single them. Miracle Moment has the best pace in the race but if she's pressed Bitter Lemon will clean up the pieces.

R8) I like Dark Cheetah at 3-1 on the stretchout. Should end up on the lead by default without a whole lot of pressure, and I don't trust Harlington off the layoff, Art Master turf to dirt (although I think he's the main competition), or Mustanfar at anything less than 10F. Will single this leg as well.

Still debating on whether to play the P6 as the rest of the legs are a mess and I feel like I could get both singles home and STILL get knocked out by some ridiculous bomb in the MCL's.

philcski 05-24-2007 11:13 AM

If I play the P6, the tickets:

1,3,4
1
1a,5
3,4,6,10
3
1,3,4,5,6,7,10

6,7,8,9
1
1a,5
3,4,6,10
3
5,6,7

$336 and $192

pmacdaddy 05-24-2007 11:30 AM

May be a waste, but I am going to try to get the #2 involved in the 6th at BEL.

Third off layoff droping in for tag off two horrible efforts. Tried blinks and sod in those two. Now loses blinkers and returns to dirt Mile where he put in a decent effort last spring. Maybe at big big price....

Good Luck Today!

philcski 05-24-2007 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy
May be a waste, but I am going to try to get the #2 involved in the 6th at BEL.

Third off layoff droping in for tag off two horrible efforts. Tried blinks and sod in those two. Now loses blinkers and returns to dirt Mile where he put in a decent effort last spring. Maybe at big big price....

Good Luck Today!

Scratched, I took a look at him at what would have been a big big price.

pmacdaddy 05-24-2007 11:58 AM

Thanks. Guess there goes my bomb for today...

Think I will play Steve's pick4 and include #9 in the last for extra $8.

philcski 05-24-2007 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy
Thanks. Guess there goes my bomb for today...

Think I will play Steve's pick4 and include #9 in the last for extra $8.

The 9th is a mess. I could see 8 different horses winning this, anyone except the 2.
Take a look at the 10 as well for your pick 4 at a monster price...

pmacdaddy 05-24-2007 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
The 9th is a mess. I could see 8 different horses winning this, anyone except the 2.
Take a look at the 10 as well for your pick 4 at a monster price...

Thanks

the_fat_man 05-24-2007 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
1. #8 Romp 7-2
2. #6 Caught Stealing 4-1
A. #9 Star Studded 3-1
B. #4 Five Demon Bag 9-2

LONGSHOT: #3 First Grandson 10-1


Star Studded comes off that horror trip last out and figures to be loose or at least get a better trip. It's now or never for him.
They shift to the widener course, however, and Bold Buy figures to get a clear late run.

Also like the 5 in the 7th and the 3 and 6 in the 9th.

Scav 05-24-2007 02:03 PM

If I had the 3 in Race 3 in the pick three am I getting a refund on that or was I stuck with the favorite?

philcski 05-24-2007 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
If I had the 3 in Race 3 in the pick three am I getting a refund on that or was I stuck with the favorite?

Starting with the 3rd, or as the middle leg?

Starting- refund
Middle- conso payoff

Scav 05-24-2007 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
Starting with the 3rd, or as the middle leg?

Starting- refund
Middle- conso payoff

Starting, awesome....

philcski 05-24-2007 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Starting, awesome....

now all they have to do is revise to that rule for p4's and p6's and i'll be a happy man...

pmacdaddy 05-24-2007 02:22 PM

Steve - Nice work in the 4th (5th too for that matter).

I wanted to take shot on First Grandson, so I did $2 Tri Box with your top two. Very nice...

57rick 05-24-2007 02:34 PM

Playing Highland Cat in the 7'th $20 WP.
Good luck to Alan over at the blog Left at the Gate.

philcski 05-24-2007 02:46 PM

Wow, the power of a late scratch. A very straightforward P4 sequence paid $639!!


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