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tiznowthegreat 05-02-2007 10:32 AM

Rags to Riches/Belmont try?
 
Does anybody else find it comical that she is 5/2 on the ML?

What do you all think she will go off at?

slotdirt 05-02-2007 10:49 AM

You know, are her speed figures really that good? This field looks more competitive than I initially thought...

Bigsmc 05-02-2007 10:51 AM

I wouldn't take less than even money in this race.

She will not be a single on my P4 ticket.

whodey17 05-02-2007 10:52 AM

Rags To Riches is no lock. This is a very good field with very competitive speed figures. I think that 5/2 in a 14 hore field is about right. I really like Octave in here.

philcski 05-02-2007 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
You know, are her speed figures really that good? This field looks more competitive than I initially thought...

Forget the speed figures. Does she stand out when you consider the fact that (a) she's only got 4 career starts, (b) never left Cali, (c) comes in off an 8 week layoff, and (d) the fillies behind her have not done anything of note to validate the performances?

5/2, 3-1 is fair value. Even money (or less) is not.

PPerfectfan 05-02-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Forget the speed figures. Does she stand out when you consider the fact that (a) she's only got 4 career starts, (b) never left Cali, (c) comes in off an 8 week layoff, and (d) the fillies behind her have not done anything of note to validate the performances?

5/2, 3-1 is fair value. Even money (or less) is not.

That is why I am going to try and beat her in this spot. Who wants to eat chalk?? I think she is the best filly by far, but this is a race to try and beat her in. And some of the fillies that are in this race are nice fillies.

philcski 05-02-2007 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I won't be betting her at such a short price either, but come on, she's a huge standout. Who has run fast enough to beat her?

I have a strong feeling she may regress off the SA efforts when faced with a real horse race. IF she runs her race, it's all over, she will win by 3, but if she takes a step or two back and another takes a step forward, suddenly the event becomes a lot different.

Those eligible to move forward at a price (taking into account the mile and an eighth, pace, etc.): High Heels, Dreaming of Anna, Tough Tiz's Sis, Autobahn Girl, Sealy Hill.

Thunder Gulch 05-02-2007 11:44 AM

If you don't look at the names and the hype surrounding this one now, the pp's don't show her to be that exceptional compared to the competition. Yes, she's the deserving favorite, but taking 2-1 or less from an outside post in a 14 horse field is really problematic.

sundaysilenceforever 05-02-2007 11:51 AM

I love Rags, and think she will win. But at a price I like High Again, with High Heels and Octave. Kinda concerned about the distance for Sealy Hill.

blackthroatedwind 05-02-2007 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
If you don't look at the names and the hype surrounding this one now, the pp's don't show her to be that exceptional compared to the competition. Yes, she's the deserving favorite, but taking 2-1 or less from an outside post in a 14 horse field is really problematic.

Her pps don't tell the whole story. You should do yourself a favor and watch her race two back. It's really something.

To be honest I felt similarly to you until I watched her races.

declansharbor 05-02-2007 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Her pps don't tell the whole story. You should do yourself a favor and watch her race two back. It's really something.

To be honest I felt similarly to you until I watched her races.

Was that the race where GG had her in the 6-7 path the whole trip?? If so, that was one of the more impressive performances by a filly this year..

sundaysilenceforever 05-02-2007 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Was that the race where GG had her in the 6-7 path the whole trip?? If so, that was one of the more impressive performances by a filly this year..

By almost ANY horse this year, male or female. I am excited to see how she does in this stronger field. What a great race it will be!

ArlJim78 05-02-2007 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Her pps don't tell the whole story. You should do yourself a favor and watch her race two back. It's really something.

To be honest I felt similarly to you until I watched her races.

agree 100%, the race you refer to was unreal. As much as I was impressed with Curlins 2 turn debut, RTR running 3-4 wide on both turns, at Santa Anita, and running down more experienced fillies was a real jaw dropper.

ArlJim78 05-02-2007 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I don't get it

don't worry, you're not alone.

Cajungator26 05-02-2007 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I don't get it

She's saying that people who drop a horse because of the odds are idiots. She referenced Ouija Board (who was an obvious single.) I don't know of many on here who DIDN'T use Ouija Board, but whatever... maybe Gander tossed her? LOL


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