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Gander 06-26-2006 02:45 PM

United Nations at Monmouth
 
I think this race is this weekend? Always been one of my favorites of the year. Better Talk Now won this last year and Balto Star the year before.

Anyone know who we can expect to see?

ateamstupid 06-26-2006 03:43 PM

Nah Timmy, it's next weekend. July 8...and actually, Request for Parole won it the year before. In the words of Chris Berman, I know 'cause I was there!

Nominations aren't up on Mth's website yet.

oracle80 06-26-2006 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Nah Timmy, it's next weekend. July 8...and actually, Request for Parole won it the year before. In the words of Chris Berman, I know 'cause I was there!

Nominations aren't up on Mth's website yet.

Ateam I would think that some of the also rans in the Manhattan would be there. Frankel and Todd like to space out the races of their horses so I wouldnt expect EC or Cacique. But I would expect either Grey Swallow or Relaxed Gesture to be there. Thats just an educated guess though.

Gander 06-26-2006 03:49 PM

Oh, I forgot about the year Request for Parole won it. Balto Star must have been 2003. I thought it was this weekend because I always associate it with July 4th weekend.

Maybe Better Talk Now and request for Parole run in it this year?

Did Balto Star ever retire? I know he made a return to the race or at least was training to. Any idea?

oracle80 06-26-2006 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Oh, I forgot about the year Request for Parole won it. Balto Star must have been 2003. I thought it was this weekend because I always associate it with July 4th weekend.

Maybe Better Talk Now and request for Parole run in it this year?

Did Balto Star ever retire? I know he made a return to the race or at least was training to. Any idea?

Hes been gone for a long time. BTN should be there I guess but if one of the other two from the Manhattan that i mentioned decide to run I would think they would win. Balto is long gone Tim.

Gander 06-26-2006 04:01 PM

BTN has really evolved into quite a nice racehorse.

What an amazing resume of graded wins this guy has accumulated.

ateamstupid 06-26-2006 04:36 PM

Always manages to beat me out of a score too..

Ruined my big straight double of Kitten's Joy and Ghostzapper in the '04 BC, then beat me when I had King's Drama in last year's Man O' War. Then, just for good measure, I was gonna play a Pick 4 on Preakness day using him and Artie Schiller, but at the last second, changed my mind to just include Artie. Needless to say, the other three legs hit and I missed a solid payout.

Freaking hate that horse.

Gander 06-26-2006 04:43 PM

Artie killed me last Preakness Day. I had an enormous straight double Artie into Pinpoint. Artie loses to Cool Conductor and Pinpoint wires them and pays $10. The double would have payed $33 and I had $200 on it. How do you think I felt?

But Artie came through for me huge on BC Day.

Society Selection 06-26-2006 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80
Ateam I would think that some of the also rans in the Manhattan would be there. Frankel and Todd like to space out the races of their horses so I wouldnt expect EC or Cacique. But I would expect either Grey Swallow or Relaxed Gesture to be there. Thats just an educated guess though.


I thought Grey Swallow was being sent to Australia this month because he was sold?

1st_Saturday_in_May 06-26-2006 05:13 PM

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1st_Saturday_in_May 06-26-2006 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Society Selection
I thought Grey Swallow was being sent to Australia this month because he was sold?

Yes, I think we have seen the last of Grey Swalow in the United States.

Relaxed Gesture may go to either the Bowling Green or Sword Dancer

Cacique is training up to the Arlington Million I believe

Better Talk Now and his rabbit Shake the Bank should be there

Honey Ryder, a NY based mare, may run in the United Nations

Spring House may go, but he's 50/50 at best

Pletcher has been noncommittal about English Channel, but he seems somewhat likely

Hotstufandthensome is also considered likely

Could be a crummy race :(

slotdirt 06-27-2006 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Always manages to beat me out of a score too..

Ruined my big straight double of Kitten's Joy and Ghostzapper in the '04 BC, then beat me when I had King's Drama in last year's Man O' War. Then, just for good measure, I was gonna play a Pick 4 on Preakness day using him and Artie Schiller, but at the last second, changed my mind to just include Artie. Needless to say, the other three legs hit and I missed a solid payout.

Freaking hate that horse.

I've learned my Artie Schiller lesson. It's taken about five or six times of using him as a single in a race where he's the clear class, but I'm done with Artie Schiller. Good old Artie Hanger.

Gander 06-27-2006 10:21 AM

You dont see very many hangers win BC races. He beat a damn good field including Leroids (may not have been 100% but still ran very well) and the finest female turfer anywhere- Gorella. I can see how you can call him a hanger but to me he doesnt fit as a hanger. Hes been the brunt of 2 very horrible rides and has kept top grade 1 competition and is a BC winner.

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-27-2006 10:36 AM

ouija board looks million bound...

hoovesupsideyourhead 06-27-2006 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
I've learned my Artie Schiller lesson. It's taken about five or six times of using him as a single in a race where he's the clear class, but I'm done with Artie Schiller. Good old Artie Hanger.

hmmm ive heard that before..lmfao

Slewbopper 06-27-2006 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Always manages to beat me out of a score too..

Ruined my big straight double of Kitten's Joy and Ghostzapper in the '04 BC, then beat me when I had King's Drama in last year's Man O' War. Then, just for good measure, I was gonna play a Pick 4 on Preakness day using him and Artie Schiller, but at the last second, changed my mind to just include Artie. Needless to say, the other three legs hit and I missed a solid payout.

Freaking hate that horse.

I am with you Ateam. I hate him too. I had Balto and Request in the Sword Dancer in the Nat'l Pick 4 that included the Bev D and Arl Mil two years ago. I left him off the ticket. Cost me big time. Then in the BC Turf I did a $20 exacta with Kitten over BTN. I almost always box exactas and hardly ever leave a longshot I like out of the top position. Well, you know what happened. I hate that $%^&*&% horse.


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