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Benevolus 04-30-2007 01:15 PM

Curlin to Change Silks for Derby
 
It looks like Curlin will change silks for the derby. Anyone know if this is true and would you really go changing silks for an undefeated horse?

philcski 04-30-2007 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Benevolus
It looks like Curlin will change silks for the derby. Anyone know if this is true and would you really go changing silks for an undefeated horse?

www.gocurlin.com, says they flipped a coin for what silks would be worn.

Benevolus 04-30-2007 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
www.gocurlin.com, says they flipped a coin for what silks would be worn.

That is pretty crazy. Not sure why they didn't just flip a coin before he started racing and just stick with one. If he loses that obviously won't be why, but it sure will drive a few people crazy.

Pedigree Ann 04-30-2007 01:23 PM

Silks are registered to owners with the Jockey Club; no two owners may have the same silks (which doesn't stop some from being very similar).

If a horse is owned by two or more different registered owners, I think it is up to them to decide whose silks are used, although most times the majority (or plurality) owner gets the honor: but I don't think there is a rule about it. If the horse has a stud deal finished for the future, it usually carries the original owner's colors while it continues to race (like Secretariat racing in the Chenery colors, not Claiborne's). But again, it depends on the deal made.

miraja2 04-30-2007 06:35 PM

Well, he is a complete toss now.
Horses that change silks right before the Derby have rarely won the race.
In fact almost every Derby winner has worn the same silks in the Derby that they did in their previous race. What a powerful angle! Put this one down next to the BCJ "jinx" as the best handicapping tools for the Derby.

JDank34 04-30-2007 06:41 PM

he has worn different silks for each start....midnight cry in the maiden race, jess jackson (stonestreet) in the rebel and padua in the ark. derby. now george bolton's will be worn saturday. who cares...it is not a big deal

The Bid 04-30-2007 06:51 PM

He has no chance if they change his silks

Danzig 04-30-2007 06:55 PM

what the hell does it matter? i can see a jock change, a trainer change, a surface switch being a concern. lol silks....

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-30-2007 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Well, he is a complete toss now.
Horses that change silks right before the Derby have rarely won the race.
In fact almost every Derby winner has worn the same silks in the Derby that they did in their previous race. What a powerful angle! Put this one down next to the BCJ "jinx" as the best handicapping tools for the Derby.

But, that will change this year.....right? :confused:

miraja2 04-30-2007 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
what the hell does it matter? i can see a jock change, a trainer change, a surface switch being a concern. lol silks....

What do you mean? I already explained to you why it matters. It would be VERY unusual for a horse to win the Derby after switching silks. It hardly ever happens. You better factor this into your handicapping strategy.
It is a shame, because if he was using the same silks as he did in the Arkansas Derby, he may have had a chance.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-30-2007 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
What do you mean? I already explained to you why it matters. It would be VERY unusual for a horse to win the Derby after switching silks. It hardly ever happens. You better factor this into your handicapping strategy.
It is a shame, because if he was using the same silks as he did in the Arkansas Derby, he may have had chance.

TOTALLY :cool:

miraja2 04-30-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
But, that will change this year.....right? :confused:

Who knows. But one thing I do know is that Street Sense's chances of winning the Derby are IN NO WAY affected by the fact that he won that particular race last year.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-30-2007 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Who knows. But one thing I do know is that Street Sense's chances of winning the Derby are IN NO WAY affected by the fact that he won that particular race last year.

But...it's that jinx thing! :rolleyes:

31lengths 04-30-2007 08:00 PM

try to avoid stepping on cracks and walking under ladders Saturday....I know I will.

Danzig 04-30-2007 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
What do you mean? I already explained to you why it matters. It would be VERY unusual for a horse to win the Derby after switching silks. It hardly ever happens. You better factor this into your handicapping strategy.
It is a shame, because if he was using the same silks as he did in the Arkansas Derby, he may have had a chance.

lol

ok, ok, you got me. i'm converted. :cool:

poor curlin. i bet he doesn't even know yet that it's hopeless.

miraja2 04-30-2007 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i bet he doesn't even know yet that it's hopeless.

I know, I have noticed that a lot of these horses don't even seem to be aware of the "angles" working against them. What ignorant beasts.

Cajungator26 04-30-2007 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
He has no chance if they change his silks

LMAO

The Bid 04-30-2007 09:57 PM

Horses are 0-33 changing silks one race prior to the Derby, he has NO CHANCE

Cajungator26 04-30-2007 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Horses are 0-33 changing silks one race prior to the Derby, he has NO CHANCE

I don't like his chances to begin with, but that's a pretty comical angle.

letswastemoney 05-01-2007 03:13 AM

In all seriousness...it would be bad karma for the silks to change.

If you had a class and sat in the same seat all the time...and you got 100% on every test....would you want to change that seat? Regardless if it's because you studied?


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