Alec Baldwin v. my brother
 

Both divorced with female offspring. Both were married to rich women. Me bro divorced a lady worth well over 300 million (Im not kidding). My bro is not rich anymore, Alec is.

I dont have any idea what has personally gone on in Alec's life with his daughter, but my God to say those things, the kid has got to be Satan.

My bro is incredibly understanding with what I would term an ex that is very hard to get along with (and by far the richest person I know). To his moderately spoiled daughters: "Listen to your mom. We both still love you. If she says bad things about me you will have to use your own judgement. I cannot compete with buying you things, so on the weekends that we see each other, I very much enjoy the movies and going to the park... Your mom and I love you even though we might express it in different ways, but either way we want the best for you, and that sometimes is not what you necessarily want. So when I tell you turn off the cell phones on our weekends together, its because I want to spend the weekend with you. I will never move away as long as you are still in school, and I can get a chance to be a part of your lives. If there is a weekend or date we set, and you cannot make it, I understand."
frckn saint he is. No hanky panky on either's part in the breakup. The divorce was very easy. Me bro did not ask for any money, just to see his daughters.

The problem I have is that so many of these self proclaimed humanitarians like Baldwin, lead horrible personal lives. They often times have horrible family relationships. Albert Einstein was as gentle a person, and a very high minded moral man, but when it came to personal relationships, he had not a clue of what he was doing to people close to him that really loved him. He was interested in bigger things.

I dont see why both cant be accomplished together. There have been so many high and mighty moral men that have been horrible to those close to them that I have to wonder if there is a connection. To name a few:

Shelley, Karl Marx, Tolstoy, Betrand Russell, M. Ali, any Kennedy ... there is a long list. Take a look into these guys and their "family structure". Please somebody give me the names of a few more liberal, high minded men that are good people to their families; people that can maintain a solid family foundation, while also preaching about injustice to people. It seems the two should go together. I would really like some names... so I can feel a bit better.

Good Lord, Dick Cheney (Mr. Mean) loves the heck out of his lesbian daughter who obviously does not live a lifestyle that he condones. But its his daughter. And I have come to realize Mr. Cheney can be an absolute bstrd to others. But his family appears to be very important.

Pgardn: your Brother sounds like he's doing his best to keep the situation level! Kudos to him.....not easy to do when emotions run deep. Other than that...I think Alec Baldwin is a loudmouth punk who abuses women and generally is self-serving to the max! He needs his butt kicked!

I still looking for one name, a man that is a great humanitarian and family man. I must have some hope the world is OK.

The good ones fly mostly under the radar!

Ok a high minded liberal that has a stellar record as a humanitarian, and family man. MUST HAVE AIR... where the heck is DTS. I need some help. Someone please.

Joe Lieberman??

Buffet. Maried over 50 years to the same gal til she passed. Worth $50 Billion (3rd wealthiest in the world). Current salary $100,000 (Ave salary for F500 CEOs is $10,000,000). Giving it all away. His $30 Bil donation to the Gates Foundation is the largest charitable gift ever.

Carlos Slim. Mexican telecom. Son of Christian Lebanese immigrants, worth $50 billion (2nd wealthiest). He is giving it all away by matching, dollar for dollar, all charitable donations in Mexico until it's gone.

Gates.

All good family men.

Very good,S2S!

Ok I got a little breathing space. They are giving away money though. Ideas.

Im looking for guys who have lived their lives with the great humanitarian ideals, that also lived good family lives. I think most of the men on this list are just rich and have decided to use their money for good causes. I dont think they had these ideas in mind when they first started. I think they are giving back. It would really help if I had someone who started with humanitarian ideas in mind and also lived these same ideas. Intellectuals in the human condition, not necessarily business men who become incredibly weathly and felt they owed something back and then later in life when they felt their own mortality turned their gaze to the human condition (better late than never). Nonetheless a comforting try.

And I know I like at least two of the men. Although Gates is so incredibly ill-informed about education as it exists today, that his initiatives wont work. He needs a solid background in the major problems, otherwise he will be throwing money into a pit of educational bureaucrats... yes, even in his more private look at education.

Maybe I just have to stick with men, or women, that are in some sort of religious position. Folks that are humanitarians with big ideas that have written extensively and have spent their lives striving to fulfill propositions, but not necessarily wealthy.

"just rich"? I'd like to be just rich like these guys. And giving it back is the icing on the cake for THEM! You seem to unintentionally dismiss what they've accomplished...I daresay none of the 3 listed are of the "Enron" ilk. The only Intellectuals I would trust are the guys like YOU,for instance, who are using and piecing together protocols for productively existing on this planet and in this society. At least....I think that's what you're doing:eek:

pg, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. don't think that the alec baldwins of the world are at all a good indication of what everyone else is like!!

The "Baldwin" incident was on local radio this morning:eek:

WOW!

Buffet is one hell of a nice guy, and probably the most brilliant business mind on the planet.

Well we might just live on different planets. Striving for the almighty dollar and finding the almight dollar has never been a goal for me so I dont see it as anything I personally would want to accomplish. I dont respect these guys because they have become rich. The accumulation of wealth may be a grand goal for you and others, and you can have it. I see nothing wrong with this endeavor. I just dont want it to get in the way of what is important to me. I would rather live through memorable times. Some of the best moments I can think of had nothing to do with money. They came unexpectedly and usually occurred in the presence of loved ones.

Like I said my brother walked out on 300 million dollars and growing. So my family may just have a completely diff. mindset than others. I will not live with a woman I cannot stand for 1 billion dollars. I got more than enough money to do what I want, which is thankfully not expensive. I feel blessed to not crave much that involves the acquisition of material. Got no interest in fancy cars, dont know what I would do with a 6 room house, dont need a big boat, I got a kayak... I feel like the lucky one.

So I dont dismiss what they have done, its quite amazing. But accumulating wealth would never ever be something important to me. Becoming a great writer is quite amazing to me also. But its not something I strive to do. I have great respect for great writers because I feel especially lacking in this area. But its not something at the top of my list.

Back to Alec. I cant ever imagine talking to a kid like that. I was never pummeled with stuff like that. My dad would strap the crud out of me, but I never got verbally abused. Maybe his daughter has tried to kill him.

Pgardn: I don't think they started out to be rich..they were wildly successful in their endeavors and their wealth is a handsome by-product of their combo of timing,hard work,and skill. btw...we are very similar on what is important vs the frivolities of life.

Amen Brother.

Live a good live and you will get to relive it again in your memories.

Baldwin will only have fabricated memories in his drunkin state of mind.

Does not really matter to me personally where they started. For all we know they could have a loved one with a severe medical condition that cant be solved by wealth. I have had experience with this. My father made a very good living as a real estate lawyer. He accumulated wealth from an extremely poor position, dirt poor. Good for him RIP. But it did not help my mother. I lived a very comfortable childhood monetarily, but it did not mean squat to me as my mother was always sick. I think this experience turned me the other way, as I saw money could not solve the most important things in my life.

So my dad worked his rear off, got rewarded monetarily, but was not successful in solving the number one family problem which he had no control over. Poor guy tried every expert he could find spending very large sums to find a fix that could not be had by wealth. In a sad way I feel lucky to have experienced this.

BAck to Alec. I have thought and listened to this tirade some more and it is so self centered that I cannot believe anything this man says concerning his altruistic world views. He is a spoiled brat. I used to respect this man as an actor, and spokesman. No longer. Typical guy who is used to getting his way via bullying and money, and when he cant get something accomplished in this manner, he has not a clue about solving problems. People need to listen closely to how self centered that tirade is. Quite shocking.

Alec Baldwin is an a-hole, always has been. I can't stand him, he is a total hypocrite who lives in his fantasy world. Didn't he promise to move out of the USA if Bush got elected? What happened to that promise, I'm still waiting for him to do it. I'm sure that the French would be more than happy to take him.

Apparently, Baldwin had court orders to call the kid at a certain hour and when he did, either Basinger or the kid herself had turned the phone off. Which was pretty crummy behavior on either Basinger or the kid's part. By the way, what did he call her besides "pig?"

2Hot, I find it funny that you had no problem with being physically punished, and consider that much less damaging than verbal punishment. I don't know how many people would agree with you on that one (I myself don't really have an opinion on it- I was spanked and yelled at as a kid and lived to tell the tale).

Look, it was stupid of Baldwin, and he's a hothead and does plenty of stupid things, and Basinger was crummy to give the message to the press, but come on- he's a parent of an 11-year-old. None of you have never, ever, yelled at your child, or perhaps used language that was less than angelic with them? Hell, I've heard much worse on the local radio station when kids arrange for their parents to be crank called by the DJs ("you little b*tch" and "I'm going to kill you" are very popular among the parents, when all is revealed to them).

I think this is a real tempest in a teapot. But it inspired this pretty funny article, so perhaps it was all worth it:

http://salon.com/mwt/feature/2007/04/25/hotheads/