Dominican breeding?
 

Am I alone in not geeting a handle on the breeding for Dominican to possibly handle 10f?

I consider the Tomlinson, dual qualifiers and center of distribution to get some feel for the obvious. Only a few could i put in a definative collumn of YES or NO WAY. Most others are a question and probably more about fitness level.

I am ready to ask Doctor Lauren Stitch.

Ignore that crap. El Corredor was a sprinter/miler (a very good one at that), but having Dixieland Band underneath should make sure 10F is in his reach. It'll be stretching it, but think about the horses that have won the Derby the last 5 years that "couldn't get the distance":
Our Emblem x Lord at War
Distorted Humor x Slewacide
Elusive Quality x Smile
Holy Bull x Stop the Music
Dynaformer x Carson City

So out of the 5, only Giacomo had "true" distance (and you could even argue that Holy Bull was truly an incredible miler that could stretch his ability.)

If the race works in his favor and he gets a good trip, he should be fine.

I agree with this for the most part, although I think you could certainly say that Babaro had a good distance pedigree.
In general I think it would be foolish to IGNORE pedigree (as some people do) in a situation where horses are all attempting to go 10F for the first time, but it is only one of many tools.
Dominican's sire was a miler, so I wouldn't say the 10f will help him exactly, but his dam-side (generally considered the more important side in terms of stamina) is plenty strong to keep him from being a "pedigree toss."
Uncle Daddy, If you like using pedigree to make your Derby selections, you probably want to look at Hard Spun. His dam-side is loaded with staying power (Turkoman, Roberto, Alydar) and his sire has already sired a 3yo classic winner (along with about 4 billion other stakes winners). Hard Spun has a great "Derby pedigree."
But I still don't think I am going to use him in the race.

That is among the many things I like about Hard Spun, but not the basis for my reason to have him as my top selection at this point...
I agree you cannot IGNORE it completely, however, you are doing it the correct way, not this chef-de-race dosage BS!

Sammy Sosa has Dominican breeding.....

If Dominican were a front-runner, I would worry more about his pedigree due to the sire not really being a stamina plus.
IMO it depends on how far off the pace he is willing to sit, and how late he is willing to make his run.
I don't see Dominican as a win candidate.

Sosa spelled backwards is Asos

LMAO!!!!

I laughed.

And speaking of people from the sporting world....Domincan's 4th dam just so happens to be Chris Evert.

The equine version of Chris Evert won the filly triple crown, and is in the thoroughbred racing Hall of Fame. She had enough endurance to win the 12 furlong Coaching Club American Oaks. She finished 3rd against boys in the Travers.

Chris Evert was the 2nd dam of Chief's Crown, who like Domincan, won the Blue Grass. CC also won the BC Juvenile, and was on the board in all three triple crown races, before a 4th in the BC Classic at age 3.

Anyway, the stamina in Domincan's pedigree is there in the most important, and least visable line of all pedigrees, that being the tail-female line.

All the pedigree stuff aside---Domincan's stock just seems to always be improving. He sold for $37,000 at a JAN yearling sale, came back 10 months later and sold for $70,000 at an OCT yearling sale, came back five months later and worked an 1/8th in 10 2/5ths at OBS and sold for $150,000 at a March 2yo sale. He had a fairly productive 2yo season, got over his testicle issue, and has won two stakes from his two starts this year--rallying past two legit Derby candidates to win the Blue Grass last time out.

He just seems to always be getting a little better and better--that said, I don't want him in the Derby.

El Corredor was a sprinter/miler with a tremendous late kick. (Like Lit de Justice in the BC Sprint). If Dominican has been able to graft that late kick onto the damside staying power, he could be a real threat. Chief's Crown, by the way, also won the Travers by a pole.

His pedigree attracted me to Hard Spun, too. His dam won a 12f turf stakes at Pimlico and was out of a half-sister to Belmont winner Little Current. You can't find a much better 'foundation' on which to use a speedy miler-type sire like Danzig with to get a classic-type horse.

Oh boy! I can't wait for the comments about this.
Here's my humble view......
Seems that too much emphasis is placed on "dosage". Pedigree does have a little consideration. I've bred some of mine to restore the Alydar, Round Table, Native Dancer and Northern Dancer genes. Did I mention Deputy Minister and Swaps?
Take that for what it's worth, put it in your pipe, smoke it, and I hope it gets you high.
The point I'm trying to make is that despite the very best genes that Dr Romans can quantify, it all comes down to how the horse's potential, yes,
POTENTIAL, is trained up to the race that the trainer deems suitable.
Put that all together with how the track is playing on any given day (which is a very big consideration, imo), and it's still a "crap shoot". Also factor "medications", legal and otherwise.
Watch the trainer and the training up. Some cycles make sense, some not.
OK...glad I got that off my chest.
Now I'll be quiet.
thanks for tolerating my little rant.

So does that mean that Dominican's breeding is "berry, berry good."

Based on pedigree you cannot dismiss Dominican at 10F. A bigger question might be, how will he run on dirt ?

Just glancing at a few of the peds, I'm a little more suspicious of Curlin's pedigree for 10F.
As an aside, CQ's 8 week layoff raises my doubts about him too.

Curlin is another one with stamina in the tail-femail line...there's nothing in his breeding to suggest the 10 furlong distance will be his undoing.

His 2nd dam Barbarika, was 5-for-8 routing, including multiple Graded Stake wins. Not to legitamize BRIS figs too much, but, she once ran a 112 BRIS figure routing--which is equal to Holy Bull's career top on those style figs. Several other good male horses, A. P. Indy among them, never ran that fast.

A Smart Strike out of a Deputy Minister, with that kind of tail-female line, shouldn't be hindered by a 10 furlong distance.

I apprecaite the comments. I do look at breeding but more to elininate afew or sperate a few candidates. He's not my top choice but improving and interesting.

Muchas gracias

Agree and agree.

Three weeks to watch the works on dirt at CD.

IN my top 6 right now. Who are the win candidates?

yeah, i don't see any red flags in curlins pedigree that say can't get 10f. stormello as well--nice bottom half, dams sire is seattle slew, and the second dam is sired by coastal, who won the belmont against spectacular bid. but i think stormellos running style (supposedly going to rate all of a sudden, we'll see) will keep him out of the money.