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Scav 06-24-2006 07:32 PM

Oracle-WHY?
 
Why was Hamilton on that horse? I didn't even notice that until now? please explain that?

oracle80 06-24-2006 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Why was Hamilton on that horse? I didn't even notice that until now? please explain that?

I don't know the entire specifics but I have a pretty good idea. Rick likes to use Prado(calls in NY), Johnny V(riding Flower Alley), bejarano(calls in Ky), Gomez(call on Motts horse), and thats pretty much it. Once none of those guys could shake loose you are in a jam. Riders take calls for one million dollar races real EARLY!!! WIthout a jock he liked I guess tehy just decided to use the guy who rode him last time. he can kiss that mount goodbye now.

Scav 06-24-2006 07:40 PM

I haven't seen the race yet but if he opened up 16 lengths and went 108, he needs to get his balls cut off......Looking forward to seeing some of these horses in the Secretariat

oracle80 06-24-2006 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I haven't seen the race yet but if he opened up 16 lengths and went 108, he needs to get his balls cut off......Looking forward to seeing some of these horses in the Secretariat

Tom when you see the replay you won't believe it. It takes a lot to stun me and make me speechless. A LOT!!! I've seen em all. But when you watch what this horse did it will boggle your mind. Who knows how good Kip is? Tell you what, after watching that race the first thing that went through my mind was Breeders Cup mile winner. You ain't seen anything like this in your whole life.

ArlJim78 06-24-2006 07:49 PM

Couldn't there have been even the slightest effort to coddle his speed? He would have had a real chance to take it.

What could this guy do in a one mile turf event?

It was certainly something you don't see every day.

oracle80 06-24-2006 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Couldn't there have been even the slightest effort to coddle his speed? He would have had a real chance to take it.

What could this guy do in a one mile turf event?

It was certainly something you don't see every day.

Chance? CHANCE???!!!! Jim, you and i both know if anyone with a brain is on that horse he wins by 5 at least. When he dug in for 2nd I was convinced I was seeing one of the biggest blooming turf stars that we have seen in years. I still cant believe what that horse did. Lets face it, the winner was given a trip that you dream about. Saved all ground with no trouble behind a leader who was 17 lengths in front in 1:08:4 for a race that far on a turf course that isnt known for producing times like that. Mind boggling that he could dig in and hold the place.

Raysva 06-25-2006 12:47 AM

Why?
 
iF THE WAS SO GOOD,WHERE WAS THE REST OF THE FIELD?I WILL TELL YOU WHERE THEY WERE' BOTTOMED OUT... HE ALMOST STOLE IT RAN ONE HELL OF A RACE BUT ONE WAS BETTER........ PERIOD! THE TRACK CONFIGURATION WILL ALLOW FAST SPLITS,HE WAS JUST SECOND BEST. 200,000 GRAND FOR SECOND I SAY THE JOCK DID HIS JOB .:

Danzig 06-25-2006 12:57 AM

you'd think we were all hard of hearing....

eurobounce 06-25-2006 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Tom when you see the replay you won't believe it. It takes a lot to stun me and make me speechless. A LOT!!! I've seen em all. But when you watch what this horse did it will boggle your mind. Who knows how good Kip is? Tell you what, after watching that race the first thing that went through my mind was Breeders Cup mile winner. You ain't seen anything like this in your whole life.

BC Mile--NO WAY. This horse has no shot in the mile. Heck Gorella would crush this horse in a mile on turf. The horse ran a good race but I want to see some more efforts before I decide how good he was on turf.

Danzig 06-25-2006 10:17 AM

here's hoping she gets a better trip in this years bcm.

sure wish deep impact was coming here instead of the arc.

boldruler 06-25-2006 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Chance? CHANCE???!!!! Jim, you and i both know if anyone with a brain is on that horse he wins by 5 at least. When he dug in for 2nd I was convinced I was seeing one of the biggest blooming turf stars that we have seen in years. I still cant believe what that horse did. Lets face it, the winner was given a trip that you dream about. Saved all ground with no trouble behind a leader who was 17 lengths in front in 1:08:4 for a race that far on a turf course that isnt known for producing times like that. Mind boggling that he could dig in and hold the place.

I think you need to stop drinking the Dutrow KoolAid. Wins by 5? Sure he would have shattered the world record I guess. Give it up. Showing Up "inhaled" that horse. As for the BC Mile, KD wouldn't even hit the board. That turf yesterday was lightning fast. KD is a nice grade 3 turf horse. Maybe grade 2. Showing Up is clearly a future grade 1 turf winner. I believe the Bloodhorse called him "Americas future turf star" or something like that.

Hopefully you will bet on KD in the next rematch. Doubt KD even enters.

paisjpq 06-25-2006 10:28 AM

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As for the BC Mile, KD wouldn't even hit the board. That turf yesterday was lightning fast. KD is a nice grade 3 turf horse. Maybe grade 2. Showing Up is clearly a future grade 1 turf winner. I believe the Bloodhorse called him "Americas future turf star" or something like that.
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Don't know about the--I just watched the race and if the kid on his back had rated KD AT ALL we might have seen a phenomenal stretch duel. I reserve judgement untl the horse gets a better ride. As for the bloodhorse they write something like that nearly every week.

boldruler 06-25-2006 10:30 AM

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Don't know about the--I just watched the race and if the kid on his back had rated KD AT ALL we might have seen a phenomenal stretch duel. I reserve judgement untl the horse gets a better ride. As for the bloodhorse they write something like that nearly every week.

I think if you try to rate KD he runs dead last. Just like Sinister Minister, you can't rate that horse. This is ridiculous anyway, Showing Up is just a much better horse. Go ahead and waste your money on KD. The distance gets longer in the next and the margin of victory will too.

ArlJim78 06-25-2006 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
here's hoping she gets a better trip in this years bcm.

sure wish deep impact was coming here instead of the arc.

Man, I'd give anything to see DI race over here. probably zero chance of that i suppose.

The more I think about it wouldn't the Arlington Million serve as a nice little tune-up for him on his way to France? What an event that would be over here. right.... keep dreaming jim!

paisjpq 06-25-2006 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by boldruler
I think if you try to rate KD he runs dead last. Just like Sinister Minister, you can't rate that horse. This is ridiculous anyway, Showing Up is just a much better horse. Go ahead and waste your money on KD. The distance gets longer in the next and the margin of victory will too.

Maybe--like I said I'm reserving judgement. And yes Showing up is a good horse I never said he wasn't--is he my favorite? no. Does that matter? no. He won, that's great, but it's a bit premature to declare him the next turf star based on his pedigree and one race.

boldruler 06-25-2006 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
Maybe--like I said I'm reserving judgement. And yes Showing up is a good horse I never said he wasn't--is he my favorite? no. Does that matter? no. He won, that's great, but it's a bit premature to declare him the next turf star based on his pedigree and one race.

Agreed. But nobody was beating Showing Up yesterday. Much the best.

Scav 06-25-2006 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Man, I'd give anything to see DI race over here. probably zero chance of that i suppose.

The more I think about it wouldn't the Arlington Million serve as a nice little tune-up for him on his way to France? What an event that would be over here. right.... keep dreaming jim!

Isn't the Arc the same weekend as the Million? it seems that this year we have seen alot of the million contenders run in America, I have no idea who is thinking about coming from Euro...........Should be another great run, as always

ArlJim78 06-25-2006 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Isn't the Arc the same weekend as the Million? it seems that this year we have seen alot of the million contenders run in America, I have no idea who is thinking about coming from Euro...........Should be another great run, as always

The million is August 12, the Arc will be run on Oct 1st.
Bring him on over, let's go.


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