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brianwspencer 04-01-2007 11:47 AM

Is God Real?: Newsweek Debate (Fascinating!)
 
A debate between Megapastor Rick Warren and Mega-atheist Sam Harris.

It really is fascinating in about every way. It's not mean-spirited and both guys bring up good points.

I think what I took from it is that faith vs. experience is hugely important. I'm not sure where I fit on the big spectrum, because being a Christian I am supposed to believe certain things that I don't. I can't reject certain science just out of hand, and Harris gets at that point in here.

It really twisted around in my head while reading it. It's a bit lengthy, but worth reading -- especially after last night's conversation.

Downthestretch55 04-01-2007 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
A debate between Megapastor Rick Warren and Mega-atheist Sam Harris.

It really is fascinating in about every way. It's not mean-spirited and both guys bring up good points.

I think what I took from it is that faith vs. experience is hugely important. I'm not sure where I fit on the big spectrum, because being a Christian I am supposed to believe certain things that I don't. I can't reject certain science just out of hand, and Harris gets at that point in here.

It really twisted around in my head while reading it. It's a bit lengthy, but worth reading -- especially after last night's conversation.

Brian,
I'm so happy I didn't jump into that thread. Geesh! I found myself agreeing with timm, danzig, and dahoss, if ya can believe it!
Anyway...to answer your question...it's a definite "yes" and a positive "no".
Kinda like how ya look at it.
Free will rules. Consequences for all others, or maybe not.

GenuineRisk 04-01-2007 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Brian,
I'm so happy I didn't jump into that thread. Geesh! I found myself agreeing with timm, danzig, and dahoss, if ya can believe it!
Anyway...to answer your question...it's a definite "yes" and a positive "no".
Kinda like how ya look at it.
Free will rules. Consequences for all others, or maybe not.

What, you didn't agree with any of my posts about being denied the body of chocolate Jesus? Man, DTS... I thought we shared something here... ;)

Downthestretch55 04-01-2007 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
What, you didn't agree with any of my posts about being denied the body of chocolate Jesus? Man, DTS... I thought we shared something here... ;)

GR,
I put it in a diff thread.
I got dibs on the nuts.

Geesh, those C's don't know about art...metaphors.
The gallery director is stepping down.
At least Michaelangelo knew what to do...the Sistine ceiling says it all.
Seven beautiful nude men...and not once mentioned in the Bible.
Joke! Way to go Mike!
Some laugh, others cry.
Are any of us taking this seriously?
Maybe.
Even funnier.

Downthestretch55 04-01-2007 04:07 PM

GR,
Here's an update:
http://www.playfuls.com/news_0006356...hibition_.html

On a side note, Adam wrapped the new Will Smith movie, the one with all the extras under the b'kln bridge. Huge. Cast party was last night.
I'll post the link if I can find it.

Downthestretch55 04-01-2007 04:14 PM

GR,
Here's the link to the Will Smith movie:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01282007...rla_levine.htm

Also, check out the James Nachtwey show if you get a chance.
Very powerful.

Danzig 04-02-2007 07:40 AM

i read the debate, as well as the article that asked if god was real...both very good reads, thanks for mentioning them brian.

Mortimer 04-02-2007 07:58 AM

Think what God must be feeling.






"Hey...are you people nuts...or what!!?? Isn't LeBron James proof enough?"

brianwspencer 04-02-2007 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i read the debate, as well as the article that asked if god was real...both very good reads, thanks for mentioning them brian.

If only our political debates over subjects related to religion could be as cordial and eloquent.

Cajungator26 04-02-2007 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
If only our political debates over subjects related to religion could be as cordial and eloquent.

Amen to that...

Downthestretch55 04-02-2007 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Amen to that...

Amen...yup!

So, if I didn't tell you this one, let me know.....

I was on a plane, wearing my collar backwards so I didn't get hassled before I got to the boarding gate. They let me go right through.
The plane took off, climbed to 30,000 feet and cruised along...
Cruising...reading, you know what it's like.
Then the plane hit some turbulance. It got bouncy.
A guy came over to sit in the aisle seat next to me.
I could tell he was spooked by the plane's antics.
I think we hit another air pocket and it looked like he was about to blow his lunch.
So he looked at me with that pathetic look on his face and asked, "Hey, Rev...
is there something you could do about this situation?"
I smiled.
He became more insistant when the plane took another bounce.
"Can you PLEASE, PLEASE do something? Rev??? Do you know what I mean?"


So...being the good pastor that I've always been, I got out of my seat, walked down the aisle, and took a collection.

ps...after we landed safetly, I went to Belmont and bet the whole shabang on a horse. If I remember, it was named Affair in the Air.
Danged if it didn't come in!

AMEN!!!!!

Downthestretch55 04-02-2007 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
What, you didn't agree with any of my posts about being denied the body of chocolate Jesus? Man, DTS... I thought we shared something here... ;)

Genuine Risk,
Do you have an opinion as to why the chocolate Jesus got such a stiff reaction compared to the chocolate Virgin Mary?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14400252/

IrishofNDMan 04-02-2007 08:13 PM

I took a philosophy class, and needless to say the teacher was an athiest and I went round for round with him everyday. I think he actually graded me harder because of my belief in God, but I gave him hell and he wasn't going to tell me any different.

There ain't nothing that can't be done
By me and God
Ain't nobody come in between me and God
One day we'll live together
Where the angels trod
Me and God

Danzig 04-02-2007 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Anyone know who God likes in the game tonight?

no doubt both teams feel he likes them. i always wonder tho, if god would have time to worry about a game-what with wars, plagues, famine and the like--surely he hasn't got time for something so trivial.
but then again, maybe he's a sports fan.

Danzig 04-02-2007 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Well I just hope God likes Florida by 5 points more tonight.

go gators!!

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-02-2007 08:25 PM

ive got one word..tsunami..what god was on coffee break right.. merry christmas...

IrishofNDMan 04-02-2007 08:31 PM

Don't start the argument that God doesn't exist because of natural disasters.

IrishofNDMan 04-02-2007 08:32 PM

people who say, "well if God did exist than why do we have these disasters that kill so many people" and this and that.


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