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onebadbeast 03-31-2007 12:36 PM

Discreet Cat
 
Piece Of Garbage!

randallscott35 03-31-2007 12:40 PM

WTF...What is with you people.

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-31-2007 12:44 PM

he was ridden like crap go no dont yes ..no..ok go wide..poor horse

declansharbor 03-31-2007 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by onebadbeast
Piece Of Garbage!

Was there a mirror in front of you as you typed??? The horse obviously does his best when on/near the lead.. Detorri checked him midway through the race, took him out of contention.. He should have just let him move when he wanted to..

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-31-2007 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by onebadbeast
Piece Of Garbage!

EASY THERE TIGER! :rolleyes:

Onebadpost

POINTGIVEN1985 03-31-2007 01:00 PM

i am disgusted i lost more money on that race then i do in a week at saratoga, i lost more on that race then i ever have in my life on 1 whole day at the track

randallscott35 03-31-2007 01:02 PM

Don't know why you would be betting that much on a Dubai race. There are other races to unload on....And I don't know the last time I bet on a horse at even money to win....Gimmick or avoid.

POINTGIVEN1985 03-31-2007 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Don't know why you would be betting that much on a Dubai race. There are other races to unload on....And I don't know the last time I bet on a horse at even money to win....Gimmick or avoid.

i dont know what i was thinking

Jax Cajun 03-31-2007 06:06 PM

Discreet Cat was a lot of hype, yes he's won before and looked good doing it. But you should have recognized that he was scratched from a race in Dubai earlier, that should have signaled there is a problem. Not to mention that he is a lightly raced horse compared to Invasor and Premium Tap. This race was pretty easy, I just took Inv with PT with all and Pt with Inv with all.
I was upset that PT couldn't win, but I can't complain since he was beaten by the best horse in the World.

Danzig 03-31-2007 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
i dont know what i was thinking

you were thinking it was a can't lose situation. harsh and expensive lesson to learn. you'll know better next time.
besides, those of us who know and love invasor knew he was the can't lose!! but no way i'd have unloaded the bank on him either!!

hang in there, it could always be worse...

Danzig 03-31-2007 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jax Cajun
Discreet Cat was a lot of hype, yes he's won before and looked good doing it. But you should have recognized that he was scratched from a race in Dubai earlier, that should have signaled there is a problem. Not to mention that he is a lightly raced horse compared to Invasor and Premium Tap. This race was pretty easy, I just took Inv with PT with all and Pt with Inv with all.
I was upset that PT couldn't win, but I can't complain since he was beaten by the best horse in the World.


premium tap should win a lot of money this year for his connections...and yes, invasor is the best in the world!

miraja2 03-31-2007 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by onebadbeast
Piece Of Garbage!

I have an idea. How about we spend a little more time analyzing horses and their performances around here, and a little less time giving horses either laudatory titles they haven't earned, or derogatory titles they don't deserve.
Today people have said that Lava Man is really just a "claiming horse" and apparently Discreet Cat is a "piece of garbage." That is insane. They are both talented, but limited, horses.
If Discreet Cat is a "piece of garbage" what were those horses he defeated in the Cigar Mile or the UAE Derby last year? Were they world-beaters? No. But according to you they were considerably worse than a "piece of garbage." That is incorrect.
Based on his performance in his first six races, he had not earned some of the praise that he had been given, but he also does not deserve to be labeled a piece of garbage after the race today.
Why did he lose? Maybe it was the layoff. Maybe he wasn't 100%. Maybe it was the 10f. Maybe it was a poor strategy by the jockey. Maybe his skills have declined considerably since last year? Maybe he can't take dirt in his face anymore?
Some of these reasons have more validity than others but ALL of them have more validity than your insanely reductionist "piece of garbage" explanation.

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-31-2007 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by onebadbeast
Piece Of Garbage!

Doesn't seem that you are a good loser...maybe you should stick to the slots, then you can kick the machine! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

POINTGIVEN1985 03-31-2007 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
I have an idea. How about we spend a little more time analyzing horses and their performances around here, and a little less time giving horses either laudatory titles they haven't earned, or derogatory titles they don't deserve.
Today people have said that Lava Man is really just a "claiming horse" and apparently Discreet Cat is a "piece of garbage." That is insane. They are both talented, but limited, horses.
If Discreet Cat is a "piece of garbage" what were those horses he defeated in the Cigar Mile or the UAE Derby last year? Were they world-beaters? No. But according to you they were considerably worse than a "piece of garbage." That is incorrect.
Based on his performance in his first six races, he had not earned some of the praise that he had been given, but he also does not deserve to be labeled a piece of garbage after the race today.
Why did he lose? Maybe it was the layoff. Maybe he wasn't 100%. Maybe it was the 10f. Maybe it was a poor strategy by the jockey. Maybe his skills have declined considerably since last year? Maybe he can't take dirt in his face anymore?
Some of these reasons have more validity than others but ALL of them have more validity than your insanely reductionist "piece of garbage" explanation.

i lost alot today on him, and i dont even think hes a peice of garbage and im hoping they dont retire him i still belive hes the best miler in the world and could be very affective up to 1 1/8

johnny pinwheel 03-31-2007 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jax Cajun
Discreet Cat was a lot of hype, yes he's won before and looked good doing it. But you should have recognized that he was scratched from a race in Dubai earlier, that should have signaled there is a problem. Not to mention that he is a lightly raced horse compared to Invasor and Premium Tap. This race was pretty easy, I just took Inv with PT with all and Pt with Inv with all.
I was upset that PT couldn't win, but I can't complain since he was beaten by the best horse in the World.

you're absolutely right , check the selections i went hard on invasor and premiun under. saw discreet at saratoga. he beat garbage that day. then he went on to beat valid notebook, big deal. the other 2 were racing against top notch comp all year. my warning i posted was buyer beware. people shouldn't read the hype the running is done on the track. you don't duck the competition for a year and then come back to beat them. even his win in cigar mile wasn't against much. invasor is a machine right now you better be fit and good to top him !


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