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POINTGIVEN1985 03-25-2007 06:36 PM

New Turf Star....?
 
Citronnade was very strong again today, third time in a row now she has looked very good on the turf.... She can stalk, close or set the pace, which is a great thing, and i think she could be a major player in the female turf division.... that might not be saying much because the division looks weak again, but she could make alot of money, winning alot of races this year.

POINTGIVEN1985 03-25-2007 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
She looked very good again. I would like to see her in a race where she is not allowed to coast along unchallenged early, but she looked good. I think Honey Ryder or Wait A While destroy her, but there certainly is a lot of money to be made out West beating up on those fillies. I read Frankel is pointing for the Gamely. Wise choice.

At this point who's the best turf filly in america ?

ArlJim78 03-25-2007 06:53 PM

There is zero chance she loses a race this year.

POINTGIVEN1985 03-25-2007 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Who knows? But I don't think she is. Not off two lope on the lead unchallenged wins. Like I said, wise of frankel to stay West. She wants no part of either of Pletchers.


i wasent implying that she is, just wanted your opinion on who was.... personally i like Naissance Royale alot

POINTGIVEN1985 03-25-2007 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic. So if you are don't answer, but if not really?


I definitly dont think she is the best but i think shes alot more then a front runner, i had her 3 starts back where she sat well off the pace and still won for fun, the horse she beat in that race then came back to defeat Naissance Royale.

brianwspencer 03-25-2007 08:15 PM

I'd like to see her beat Vacare first. If Vacare progresses at all into her four year old season, she's going to be a monster.

POINTGIVEN1985 03-25-2007 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
I'd like to see her beat Vacare first. If Vacare progresses at all into her four year old season, she's going to be a monster.

im not that high on her, but who am i ? i definitly dont think shes as good as drf.com thinks she is rating her the 3rd best turf filly in america, i'd prefer Citronnade over her.

NTamm1215 03-25-2007 08:40 PM

Vacare is...undefeated...picture perfect in every start. She may be untested, but at this point in time she has to be respected. I think Mauralakana who she beat at Keeneland then was mis-placed in the BC F&M Turf is a nice filly.

NT

POINTGIVEN1985 03-25-2007 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Vacare is...undefeated...picture perfect in every start. She may be untested, but at this point in time she has to be respected. I think Mauralakana who she beat at Keeneland then was mis-placed in the BC F&M Turf is a nice filly.

NT

vacare is very nice, but i think Citronnade has a nicer future on the green

VOL JACK 03-25-2007 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
There is zero chance she loses a race this year.

She has been lone speed in both her starts this year. I still couldn't beleive she went off at 4-5. I bet Quiet Royal. Gomez was forced to use her up early. That is not the way she wants to run. oh well, better odds next time.

PPerfectfan 03-25-2007 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
I definitly dont think she is the best but i think shes alot more then a front runner, i had her 3 starts back where she sat well off the pace and still won for fun, the horse she beat in that race then came back to defeat Naissance Royale.

Love Naissance Royale, very nice. Honey Rider is a nice mare but will be out most of the year after Dubai so that doesnt leave very many nice one.

VOL JACK 03-25-2007 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
At this point who's the best turf filly in america ?

Any idea about Lady of Venice? She looked top class last year. The Best 3yo filly this year will be dale Romans' Zofzig.

goingtothewhip 03-25-2007 10:07 PM

Cit. broke the SA stakes record (set by Exchange in 1993).

Visually impressive in the ring/paddock. She did a little two-step with a skip her first time around the walking ring which my discerning eye recognized immediately as a sign that she was not sore..... but rather "ready to rock". Her body language, not mine.

Absolutely crushed the field. Frankel/Filly/Turf/SoCal I think I have seen this racket develop before.

jjf1031 03-26-2007 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Any idea about Lady of Venice? She looked top class last year. The Best 3yo filly this year will be dale Romans' Zofzig.

If sound I like Lady of Venice as well. Was shocked she did not put up a better effort against Wait A While at Saratoga last year but pace sure did not help in a compact field that day. I think with preogression and if she comes back obviously she will be the leader of older female turf division this year

brianwspencer 03-26-2007 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Forgot about her. Any idea when she's coming back?

Not sure when she's back, but she's been working in Florida.

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
im not that high on her, but who am i ? i definitly dont think shes as good as drf.com thinks she is rating her the 3rd best turf filly in america, i'd prefer Citronnade over her.

I think that they're ranking her on the same basis that I believe -- that she's going to come back better this year than last year. Look at Citronnade -- and their one meeting in the QE II at Keeneland. Vacare absolutely crushed her.

Then, look how well Citronnade came back this year, so if we even begin to imagine that Vacare got any better than she was last year she's going to make a serious hoofprint on the division.

Well that, and someone's gotta beat her first. At least now that she's four we'll get to see her take on some of the big girls instead of 3yos only.


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