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2Hot4TV 03-24-2007 11:13 AM

2008 Breeders Cup at Santa Anita?
 
Rumor is the an announcement is to made that Santa Anita will host the 2008 Breeders Cup races. This will be the first to be run on poly track.

randallscott35 03-24-2007 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV
Rumor is the an announcement is to made that Santa Anita will host the 2008 Breeders Cup races. This will be the first to be run on poly track.

Put it at Del Mar.

2Hot4TV 03-24-2007 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Put it at Del Mar.

I will forward your wishs.

randallscott35 03-24-2007 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV
I will forward your wishs.

Hey I'm of the opinion they should have one at Saratoga also. If they put it the 3rd week in October---slightly earlier, they could do it. They had one at Woodbine, they should have one there. Yes, there is no heat and it could be cold. I've also been there in October in the 60's. Lord knows the last 2 times at Belmont I was freezing my ass off....Get some balls and put it at Toga.

blackthroatedwind 03-24-2007 11:51 AM

So Randall, you think the BC should further ruin the once great Fall stakes by running the BC even earlier....and at a venue with 5000 seats?

Out of curiosity, how much time have you spent in Saratoga in mid to late October?

randallscott35 03-24-2007 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
So Randall, you think the BC should further ruin the once great Fall stakes by running the BC even earlier....and at a venue with 5000 seats?

Out of curiosity, how much time have you spent in Saratoga in mid to late October?

Plenty. And I'd say that if you look at Monmouth, it has more to offer than they do. Monmouth is not offering walk up tickets. I see no reason why with temp seating you couldn't put as many seats at Toga as you could at Monmouth....This is not new, it has been talked about before....Toronto is every bit as cold as Toga.

blackthroatedwind 03-24-2007 11:58 AM

Plenty? How many times have you been there when there was snow on the ground? The other thing is that Saratoga is completely open, there are no enclosed spaces, and they aren't about to winterize that historical structure.

Trust me, the weather COULD cooperate, and it would then be a spectacular day, but in all likelihood it would be a nightmare. You cannot compare the weather at Monmouth to Saratoga....there could very well be a 15 degree difference.

Scav 03-24-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Plenty? How many times have you been there when there was snow on the ground? The other thing is that Saratoga is completely open, there are no enclosed spaces, and they aren't about to winterize that historical structure.

Trust me, the weather COULD cooperate, and it would then be a spectacular day, but in all likelihood it would be a nightmare. You cannot compare the weather at Monmouth to Saratoga....there could very well be a 15 degree difference.

I hear you are fiery this morning?

randallscott35 03-24-2007 12:02 PM

As I said, it isn't enclosed and it could be cold. But jeez Andy, Belmont has been awful the last two times. And I'm not comparing the weather to Jersey, but I will to Woodbine....Mind you I'm talking about moving the date up a few weeks....One time, at a place where it all started needs to be done. I will start a petition at the Carolina BBQ this summer. You can be the first to sign.

blackthroatedwind 03-24-2007 12:03 PM

I would be a LOT happier if the 4 got up for second in the first at Aqueduct.

I'm not " fiery ", I am just trying to explain that hosting a BC in Saratoga, while a pleasant thought, does not make logical sense.

blackthroatedwind 03-24-2007 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
As I said, it isn't enclosed and it could be cold. But jeez Andy, Belmont has been awful the last two times. And I'm not comparing the weather to Jersey, but I will to Woodbine....Mind you I'm talking about moving the date up a few weeks....One time, at a place where it all started needs to be done. I will start a petition at the Carolina BBQ this summer. You can be the first to sign.


Both Woodbine and Belmont have SUBSTANTIAL areas that are enclosed, most importantly for dining, so to compare the experiences there to Saratoga makes little sense.

randallscott35 03-24-2007 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Both Woodbine and Belmont have SUBSTANTIAL areas that are enclosed, most importantly for dining, so to compare the experiences there to Saratoga makes little sense.

For weather it sure does make sense....Your fine dining happiness on BC day is not that important to me. Its the racing that matters. Put on your timberland boots Andy, I know you have them, and your Northface jacket and let's roll.

Grits 03-24-2007 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I would be a LOT happier if the 4 got up for second in the first at Aqueduct.

I'm not " fiery ", I am just trying to explain that hosting a BC in Saratoga, while a pleasant thought, does not make logical sense.

The hell you're not fiery, you finding faulty in every post you put up.

What's wrong with you?

Bold Reasoning 03-24-2007 12:19 PM

Saratoga in general has miserable weather. In the summer it is humid and rainy, much more so than Monmouth. In the winter it is snowing when at Monmouth it is raining. There is little shelter at Saratoga; I have been caught in numerous downpours there. The town is gorgeous, but the track is not particularly user-friendly. Monmouth is user-friendly; I know it well. I live in New Jersey and I have been there hundreds of times. I would like to see the next Breeders' Cup at Del Mar. It seems to have it all.

PPerfectfan 03-24-2007 12:23 PM

All I can say is if it is at S.A. I will be there with bells on!!

blackthroatedwind 03-24-2007 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
For weather it sure does make sense....Your fine dining happiness on BC day is not that important to me. Its the racing that matters. Put on your timberland boots Andy, I know you have them, and your Northface jacket and let's roll.


It isn't about " fine dining ". and I would hope you didn't mean that, it is about dining areas that are enclosed. Belmont and Woodbine have plenty....Saratoga has NONE.

Mortimer 03-24-2007 12:35 PM

Someone in here is being HIGHLY amusing.



I'm just not saying who.

randallscott35 03-24-2007 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It isn't about " fine dining ". and I would hope you didn't mean that, it is about dining areas that are enclosed. Belmont and Woodbine have plenty....Saratoga has NONE.

A roll of the dice on the weather. I'm willing to do it.

blackthroatedwind 03-24-2007 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
A roll of the dice on the weather. I'm willing to do it.


Thankfully nobody in the decision process is.

randallscott35 03-24-2007 12:56 PM

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Thankfully nobody in the decision process is.

Not yet...Are you happy they are having it at Monmouth? I'm not particularly.


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