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2MinsToPost 03-10-2007 06:24 PM

Question, Seriously
 
I am banging my head against the wall on my All Stakes Pick 4 play

After the scratch of Liquor Cabinet Master Command was the obvious single

Now, looking back, I ask myself this and ask you veteran cappers this

Should CQ been a logical single as well?

Hindsight is 20/20, but man I could have hit that Pick 4 for 3 or 4 times had I singled Master Command (which I did), gone a little deeper in the other 2 legs (even though I only missed 1 leg) and singled CQ

I feel like I dropped the ball, should have used the O'neil horse that won

Damn

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-10-2007 06:28 PM

had tw0 early pick 4s one for 700 ..64 dollar investment and the second 12 bucks inv payed a slight 350..master and quey were singles....e -stine will never win this soon..lmfao scavs:cool:

zippyneedsawin 03-10-2007 06:30 PM

On paper, CQ is a single, but I just couldn't single him either. But looking at the final payout, it was excellent considering it was really a Pick 3 with Master Commander leading it off and two morning line 2nd choices in between.

2MinsToPost 03-10-2007 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
had tw0 early pick 4s one for 700 ..64 dollar investment and the second 12 bucks inv payed a slight 350..master and quey were singles....e -stine will never win this soon..lmfao scavs:cool:

stingin scavs, ouch

he was so confident, damn hooves:eek:

GPK 03-10-2007 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
had tw0 early pick 4s one for 700 ..64 dollar investment and the second 12 bucks inv payed a slight 350..master and quey were singles....e -stine will never win this soon..lmfao scavs:cool:


mistake #1...listening to Scavs...

POINTGIVEN1985 03-10-2007 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
I am banging my head against the wall on my All Stakes Pick 4 play

After the scratch of Liquor Cabinet Master Command was the obvious single

Now, looking back, I ask myself this and ask you veteran cappers this

Should CQ been a logical single as well?

Hindsight is 20/20, but man I could have hit that Pick 4 for 3 or 4 times had I singled Master Command (which I did), gone a little deeper in the other 2 legs (even though I only missed 1 leg) and singled CQ

I feel like I dropped the ball, should have used the O'neil horse that won

Damn

i dont know if you value my opinion or not , but i dont think cq was a logical single, there were alot of talented horses in that race and i would not have felt comfortable using him as a single i actually hit the other 3 and did not use cq at all, this hurts a little but my ticket only cost $24, so its not that bad.

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-10-2007 06:33 PM

jock made up the horses mind..were gonna lay back and make a run....horse says cool lets do this..

POINTGIVEN1985 03-10-2007 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
On paper, CQ is a single, but I just couldn't single him either. But looking at the final payout, it was excellent considering it was really a Pick 3 with Master Commander leading it off and two morning line 2nd choices in between.

how was he a single on paper ? doug oneil has been almost as hot as pletcher and his horse had alot of tactical speed, i liked him more then cq, the local horse, the # 2 got pounded the whole way in the betting i liked him better then cq, and i also liked the other pletcher horse better then cq, i know he won, but even after the fact i dont see how he was a single

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-10-2007 06:39 PM

with the tear t pleach is on and the top jock in the country and the compitition..he was a single imo

2MinsToPost 03-10-2007 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
While CQ was the most accomplished on paper I don't think he was a single. He had definite doubts about 2 turns which I guess are no more. I actually didn't like Notional at all and thought Zanjero had a big chance to upset but he was no match. Ketchikan seems like he might be one that makes some noise in upciming stakes. But no, I don't think CQ would have been a good single. Were you going to use Mistical Plan?

No I was not

I used BTW's ABC logic and Mistical Plan was a B and I tossed

zippyneedsawin 03-10-2007 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
how was he a single on paper ? doug oneil has been almost as hot as pletcher and his horse had alot of tactical speed, i liked him more then cq, the local horse, the # 2 got pounded the whole way in the betting i liked him better then cq, and i also liked the other pletcher horse better then cq, i know he won, but even after the fact i dont see how he was a single



He was by far the most accomplished, but as I said, I couldn't single him either.

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-10-2007 06:53 PM

my ticket was.,.7 with 3/7/8/11 with 1/7 with 1..dumb luck i guess but ill take it

hockey2315 03-10-2007 07:23 PM

I definitely don't think CQ was a strong single. . . Still wouldn't if I could do it over again. . . But I still can't believe I didn't include the O'Neill filly. . . My east-coast bias clouds my judgment way too much sometimes. . .

POINTGIVEN1985 03-10-2007 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
He was by far the most accomplished, but as I said, I couldn't single him either.

he is accomplished, but up to today everything that he accomplished was at 7f or shorter and in the hopeful at the spa he got a dream setup, those are some of the reassons why i dident even put him on my ticket today

POINTGIVEN1985 03-10-2007 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
my ticket was.,.7 with 3/7/8/11 with 1/7 with 1..dumb luck i guess but ill take it

my ticket was ...7/3,5,9,11/1,4/2,5... i was alive to the cq race and did not use him at all, dumb play i guess, but i really did not like him

zippyneedsawin 03-10-2007 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
he is accomplished, but up to today everything that he accomplished was at 7f or shorter and in the hopeful at the spa he got a dream setup, those are some of the reassons why i dident even put him on my ticket today

Obviously a big mistake. I understand trying to beat him, and also thought several others in the race that had a chance. But, I guess I don't necessarily equate accomplish with wins. CQ did finish 2nd in two other races last year, and those aren't bad accomplishments either.

blackthroatedwind 03-10-2007 07:51 PM

I'm not at all suprised Circular Quay won but I have no idea how he could have been considered a single. You make MUCH more money over time playing against horses like him than on them. I used him defensively ( and blew up with Get Ready Bertie ) but hardly considered him a single. Truth be told he was a bit of a sucker horse, bet heavily because of his connections, and not his pps.


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