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Hickory Hill Hoff 03-07-2007 08:25 PM

Who's the worst trainer ever?
 
We've covered horses, jockeys...now the trainer

John Candlin

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-07-2007 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
He's pretty bad but keep in mind almost all of his horses are awful. He does pop every once in awhile and I have a feeling he more than makes up for it $$$$$ when they pop.

He does have one of the best names for a horse though...Shoot the Wad :rolleyes:

ArlJim78 03-07-2007 08:45 PM

It has to be Nauseem Rauf.

Not sure of the spelling. Last I knew he hadn't won a race in like 10 years.

Danzig 03-08-2007 03:53 AM

the 'trainer' of ricks natural star.

Bigsmc 03-08-2007 04:35 AM

I'll stick to Tampa again.

Charles Davis is 0 for the last few years.

Janet Del Castillo is running an 8yr old today that is 1 for 74. She also had a nice turf horse a few years ago, Shrimp Tempura, that won a few races despite her training. Could have been a nice one in someone elses hands.

JDank34 03-08-2007 06:33 AM

Naseem Rauf for sure.....but if you want a second choice Neil Pessin

cakes44 03-08-2007 07:55 AM

Dale Baird.

Swale84 03-08-2007 08:16 AM

John Candlin. Many of his horses are entered in State-bred maiden claimers and never leave that condition. Can go months without a win

ArlJim78 03-08-2007 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44
Dale Baird.

Really? isn't he like the alltime leader in wins? he's been popping at a 15% clip for at least the most recent years that I paid attention.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-08-2007 08:35 AM

Steve Knapp........0 for 60 with anybody who's name isn't BETTERSWEETMOMENT.Most of them back up like they have been shot in the neck(like Traffic Update did yesterday.) He says he likes to claim horses that win a lot.Some of them are indeed Knapp-proof,and can keep winning,but not very many.Most can't even win if he drops them down to a 3rd of what he claimed them for.For instance,he claimed Traffic Update for 32k.The horse won the race he claimed him out of,and the horse won about 3 weeks earlier too.He has tried to win with him at 50k claiming,16k,12.5k,and yesterday he ran 2nd to last in a 10k claimer.Done f'd him up,and scorched a client's 32k.I hope Cerin doesn't bring back Antifreezette for a 12,500 claiming tag. I am always worried this guy is gunna take her,and ruin her too.

saucon17 03-08-2007 08:43 AM

Trainer at Finger Lakes J. William Berry, The past meet I think he
saddled around 40 horses and not one hit the board, not even 4th
and I pretty sure he did the same the prior year

robfla 03-08-2007 08:48 AM

Julian Canet - count your fingers after you shake his hand, he might have stole one of them.

ARyan 03-08-2007 01:29 PM

Jayne Vaders

AeWingnut 03-08-2007 06:22 PM

Assuming we are talking high profile trainers...

until he moved to Oaklawn, I would have to say D. Wayne Lukas. He's had luck early in the meet. Haven't noticed if it is holding up since I don't go as often as I used to.

Hickory Hill Hoff 03-08-2007 06:26 PM

One time great...and in the Hall of Fame, now has very few in the winner's circle -
Leroy Jolley (did have a dead-heat win @ GP this year)

disappearingdan_akaplaya 03-08-2007 10:04 PM

kris turner, example just see james. give that horse to any trainer with intelligence and look out, mighta been one of the best ILL breds ever. still in shock how somebody gave her a horse of that ability. she musta bs'd them like she did me

disappearingdan_akaplaya 03-08-2007 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Steve Knapp........0 for 60 with anybody who's name isn't BETTERSWEETMOMENT.Most of them back up like they have been shot in the neck(like Traffic Update did yesterday.) He says he likes to claim horses that win a lot.Some of them are indeed Knapp-proof,and can keep winning,but not very many.Most can't even win if he drops them down to a 3rd of what he claimed them for.For instance,he claimed Traffic Update for 32k.The horse won the race he claimed him out of,and the horse won about 3 weeks earlier too.He has tried to win with him at 50k claiming,16k,12.5k,and yesterday he ran 2nd to last in a 10k claimer.Done f'd him up,and scorched a client's 32k.I hope Cerin doesn't bring back Antifreezette for a 12,500 claiming tag. I am always worried this guy is gunna take her,and ruin her too.



maybe knapp needs "tha guid" to return to cali, them 2 lit up the toteboard together like crazy when mark had his short stint there

dellinger63 03-08-2007 10:10 PM

Tie Emagene Shwann (sp) and Dee Poulis (sp) two of arlingtons finest


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