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POINTGIVEN1985 03-05-2007 09:32 PM

corinthian
 
are we looking at a possible horse of the year ? i realize there is a long long way to go, but he has looked super and the numbers hes getting are real big, i know there is invasor on the east and lava man out west, but at this point i think corinthian is right there with those 2 horses, i think if they hooked up today it would be a competitive race and i dont feel there should be a clear cut favorite, i know at this point lava man and invasor are alot more accomplished, but i have always liked corinthian and he seems to be the up and coming horse in the handicap division and if he stays healthy i think he has a shot to have a huge year, also out of the 3 of them corinthian still has room to improve he is a lightly raced 4 year old, i doubt we have seen his best already, and with his breeding, connections and raw talent he has to have alot of room to improve which is scary considering some of the races hes already ran

SniperSB23 03-05-2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
are we looking at a possible horse of the year ? i realize there is a long long way to go, but he has looked super and the numbers hes getting are real big, i know there is invasor on the east and lava man out west, but at this point i think corinthian is right there with those 2 horses, i think if they hooked up today it would be a competitive race and i dont feel there should be a clear cut favorite, i know at this point lava man and invasor are alot more accomplished, but i have always liked corinthian and he seems to be the up and coming horse in the handicap division and if he stays healthy i think he has a shot to have a huge year, also out of the 3 of them corinthian still has room to improve he is a lightly raced 4 year old, i doubt we have seen his best already, and with his breeding, connections and raw talent he has to have alot of room to improve which is scary considering some of the races hes already ran

I'm a huge fan of this horse but also recognize that he isn't the soundest of horses and am not even going to think about HOY until I think he might actually stay healthy all year. I also think he is the second best horse out there and won't beat Invasor if he comes back from Dubai. I just love it though that Jerkens wants to bring him back in the Excelsior which does nothing for the stallion resume. Gotta love it when they actually race a race horse instead of just sitting on a G2 winner until a G1 shows up.

Edit - I should add that if Discreet Cat and Premium Tap comeback from Dubai as well they may be better than him

POINTGIVEN1985 03-05-2007 09:43 PM

i definitly agree with you guys about those other horses, but not all horses comeback from dubai the same, and my feeling is even if they all comeback the same i think corinthian is a very serious racehorse and could beat some of those other guys

SniperSB23 03-05-2007 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
i definitly agree with you guys about those other horses, but not all horses comeback from dubai the same, and my feeling is even if they all comeback the same i think corinthian is a very serious racehorse and could beat some of those other guys

Could, yes, but he also could be retired tomorrow. After all, he has done enough. I just hope we get to see him square off against Invasor.

POINTGIVEN1985 03-05-2007 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Could, yes, but he also could be retired tomorrow. After all, he has done enough. I just hope we get to see him square off against Invasor.

lets say they raced now, who wins, and by how many lenghts ?

POINTGIVEN1985 03-05-2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Invasor, by open lengths.

really ? i think it would be very close 2 legnths tops, either way

SniperSB23 03-05-2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
lets say they raced now, who wins, and bye how many lenghts ?

Tough to say given pace scenarios but I think Invasor is about 4-5 lengths better than what Corinthian has shown. Not to say Corinthian can't show more but there's no way we can know until they face off.

hockey2315 03-05-2007 10:06 PM

Invasor by 2. . . But Discreet Cat is better than both

SniperSB23 03-05-2007 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
Invasor by 2. . . But Discreet Cat is better than both

And I'm sure he'll prove it by winning the Godolphin Mile. :rolleyes:

POINTGIVEN1985 03-05-2007 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
And I'm sure he'll prove it by winning the Godolphin Mile. :rolleyes:

is that the plans now that he missed his prep ?

SniperSB23 03-05-2007 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
is that the plans now that he missed his prep ?

He's going to enter in both, I'm still hopeful they enter him in the World Cup but I'm expecting they take this excuse to keep him undefeated in the Mile.

POINTGIVEN1985 03-05-2007 10:15 PM

if corinthian stays sound , and the big 3 comeback from dubai, then we will have a great year of horse racing. but those are both huge question marks.

SniperSB23 03-05-2007 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I agree. I think they are a bit nervous about facing Invasor and with as good as Premium Tap has looked the mile makes sense.

And most importantly they can claim it helps them towards their goal of winning every race on the card. Of course they'll conveniently forget their claim that he was skipping the BC Classic for the Dubai World Cup.

Anyone else think Shiekh Hamdan is playing hardball?

SniperSB23 03-05-2007 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
if corinthian stays sound , and the big 3 comeback from dubai, then we will have a great year of horse racing. but those are both huge question marks.

I remember just three years ago being all psyched that Ghostzapper, Roses in May, Saint Liam, Eddington and Funny Cide were all pointing to the Whitney. Then when only Saint Liam showed up because three were retired and one was slow it seemed like a total letdown. The end result was we wound up with the race of the year between Commentator and Saint Liam and both topping a 120 Beyer. So I guess what I'm saying is don't get too hopeful that the top horses now are around come August but at the same time don't think that means we won't see new horses emerge and do great things.

JJP 03-05-2007 10:24 PM

I think Corinthian would get destroyed by either Discreet Cat or Invasor. And probably Premium Tap as well. In Corinthian's comeback race, there really was no speed in the race and he got first run on Jazil. Again, on Saturday, there was a definite lack of speed yet despite the good trip, Corinthian looked like he was trying to get out, and had his head turned and was all out to beat the pace disadvantaged He'sanoldsalt.


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