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point given 02-26-2007 11:11 AM

NOBIZ not entered in FOY
 
I just happened to take a look at the Gulfstream stakes nominations for saturday March 3rd. I was shocked to see that NOBIZLIKESHOBIZ was not entered or nominated for the Fountain of Youth . SAy it ain't so Barclay ! I got a seat at the finish line to see the Biz ! What a weak field is entered now. GRRRRRRR ........................................

MY BAD, AS POINTED OUT BY OTHER POSTS. SORRY FOR THE FALSE ALARM !


http://www.gulfstreampark.com/NR/rdo...fYouthNoms.pdf

AND only 4 entered to run in the Hutcheson

http://www.gulfstreampark.com/NR/rdo...chesonNoms.pdf

miraja2 02-26-2007 11:15 AM

I think it is clear that he is ducking the great Sacrifice Bunt.

Kasept 02-26-2007 11:19 AM

I believe that horses finishing 1-2-3 in the Holy Bull are automatically nominated to the Fountain. These series are frequently set up this way or that nominating for the top event in a series gets you into the leadups, etc..

blackthroatedwind 02-26-2007 11:28 AM

It's either what Steve said or that a nomination to the Florida Derby includes the entire series. As of the other day he was expected to run.

point given 02-26-2007 11:29 AM

I hope
 
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Originally Posted by Kasept
I believe that horses finishing 1-2-3 in the Holy Bull are automatically nominated to the Fountain. These series are frequently set up this way or that nominating for the top event in a series gets you into the leadups, etc..

Hope you're right. BUT, why are the pp's not including NOBIZ on the Gulfstream website ? and what do you make of the Hutcheson with 4 noms and 2 of those cross entered in the FOY ?

blackthroatedwind 02-26-2007 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by point given
Hope you're right. BUT, why are the pp's not including NOBIZ on the Gulfstream website ? and what do you make of the Hutcheson with 4 noms and 2 of those cross entered in the FOY ?

Trust me....many are nominated to ALL these races.

point given 02-26-2007 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Trust me....many are nominated to ALL these races.

Trust ? But i've been hurt so many times before ! :D

txshorns02 02-26-2007 11:42 AM

Prado is on Adore the Gold for the Fountain of Youth and he isn't on the nominations for the Fountain of Youth...maybe Nobiz is entered in the race...

Bigsmc 02-26-2007 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It's either what Steve said or that a nomination to the Florida Derby includes the entire series. As of the other day he was expected to run.

BTW is correct. When you nominate for the Florida Derby, you are actually nominated for the "Florida Derby Series" which includes all of the GP 3yr old preps for the Florida Derby.

blackthroatedwind 02-26-2007 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by point given
Trust ? But i've been hurt so many times before ! :D

Haven't we all.

smuthg 02-26-2007 11:46 AM

http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37705

It looks like from the Bloodhorse article that he's in the race...

lemoncrush 02-26-2007 12:10 PM

Right on all accounts.
The nomination list for many of the preps are completely different from who is actually in the race.
Check the nominations for the Bob Lewis Stakes this weekend at Santa Anita.
It shows a completely different group than the horses expected to be entered.

point given 02-26-2007 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smuthg
http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37705

It looks like from the Bloodhorse article that he's in the race...

Thanks for the link. My mood has brightened. 80 and cloudy in S.FL

point given 02-26-2007 12:22 PM

crazy question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncrush
Right on all accounts.
The nomination list for many of the preps are completely different from who is actually in the race.
Check the nominations for the Bob Lewis Stakes this weekend at Santa Anita.
It shows a completely different group than the horses expected to be entered.

Why don't they include the Florida Derby series nominees together with the nominations to give a complete accounting of the horses ? This method seems incomplete, to say the least. I've not been up on this part of the game, as you can readily tell.


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