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MisterB 02-23-2007 07:51 AM

Can Einstein do a repeat in the Gulfstream BC Turf
 
Looks like 11 will go. The race got a little shorter, from 1 7/16 miles to 1 3/8 miles. Only made 1 start since the 8 month layoff. Tough going here. I am leaning towards Ramazutti, based on off the pace win in the Grade 2Mac Diarmida. Downside: Only win since his 3yr old efforts.

Other problems are:

Revved Up, Go Between, Jambalaya, and Mustanfar.



hoovesupsideyourhead 02-23-2007 08:04 AM

i like revved up....

blackthroatedwind 02-23-2007 10:10 AM

I don't like Einstein. I think he is the very definition of a " trap ".

point given 02-23-2007 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB
Looks like 11 will go. The race got a little shorter, from 1 7/16 miles to 1 3/8 miles. Only made 1 start since the 8 month layoff. Tough going here. I am leaning towards Ramazutti, based on off the pace win in the Grade 2Mac Diarmida. Downside: Only win since his 3yr old efforts.

Other problems are:

Revved Up, Go Between, Jambalaya, and Mustanfar.



I seem to recall that Ramazutti rated last race due to another need the lead horse in the race. I was suprised he rated last out, but, I have a feeling he will go to the front in this race. I would also expect Einstein will sit off the pace this time. Havenot taken a look at the PP's yet, but Einsteins last out he was not pushed and I expect a big race out of him here.

hockey2315 02-23-2007 11:14 AM

I've always liked Embossed. . . Probably doesn't stack up here but he's a pretty useful horse. . .

lemoncrush 02-23-2007 12:19 PM

I'll use Revved up, Interpretaton...maybe Mustafar.
I'm still pissed about Einstein screwing up my Magna5 last year on this race.

I had a $32 ticket alive to Munstafar and Go Deputy, and that Einstein wires the field, wins by a neck and really depressed me.

eajinabi 02-23-2007 12:49 PM

I love Einstein because last year he capped off my biggest hit yet.
I hit the Magna Pick 5 paying almost $11,500.

In that race I had Einstein and Go Deputy and these two were neck and neck but I was rooting for einstein because it paid more.

eajinabi 02-23-2007 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncrush
I'll use Revved up, Interpretaton...maybe Mustafar.
I'm still pissed about Einstein screwing up my Magna5 last year on this race.

I had a $32 ticket alive to Munstafar and Go Deputy, and that Einstein wires the field, wins by a neck and really depressed me.


LOL!!!! While he screwed you, he helped me. I had Go Deputy and Einstein in that race. My ticket was $64. If you would have added Einstein then it would have only cost u $36.

In HRTV, Laffit Pincay and Jeff Siegel were alive too going into the last race. Seigel had both Go Deputy and Einstein whereas Laffit just had Go Deputy. When they crossed the wire, you could tell how miserable Laffit was after that. He was tottaly pissed that he lost. It was funny!!

JJP 02-23-2007 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'll take the mare Honey Ryder. Certainly no world beaters in here, while at least Mustanfar has some upside and Einstein I guess. Can't see Ramzutti winning 2 in a row and Johhny V moves to Honey Ryder. Give me the gray mare.

I agree. The males in there don't scare anybody. I don't like Einstein, who won a/perfect trip last year crawling on the lead; I don't like Mustanfar who hasn't done anything in a couple years; Ramazutti could win but he's coming off a textbook perfect trip win last time and is doubtful to get that perfect scenario. The mare wins by default.

randallscott35 02-23-2007 07:23 PM

Not a chance Einstein does it again. Not 1 chance. That was the dream trip with a slower than slow pace.

Danzig 02-23-2007 07:44 PM

i'll be pulling for honey ryder. i always root for the gals when they face the guys...well, almost always.

point given 02-23-2007 08:17 PM

HFC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig188
i'll be pulling for honey ryder. i always root for the gals when they face the guys...well, almost always.

She is also a Horse For Course, I think 3 of 5, so you know she loves the track. Still havenot printed out the pp's yet though.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-23-2007 09:16 PM

On last years Florida Derby undercard, Honey Ryder won the 12 furlong Orchid Stakes by 4 lengths in 2:23 flat.

Two races later, Ramazutti and Einstein were 2nd and 4th, in the 12 furlong Pan Am Cap, that race was run in 2:24 1/5th.

HR's race featured a 48 flat pace, the other went 48 2/5ths.

Honey Ryder will be much shorter than that crazy 4/1 that the morning line maker hung on her. She will be a deserving favorite.

blackthroatedwind 02-23-2007 09:18 PM

And she'll lose too.

But, then again, I have never liked her.

Cajungator26 02-23-2007 09:19 PM

I'm with DaHoss on this. I like the mare.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-23-2007 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
And she'll lose too.

But, then again, I have never liked her.

Who beats her?

That is a pretty shabby group for the Gr 1 level.

Coach Pants 02-23-2007 09:50 PM

This is a Grade III not a grade I.............





right?

That being said, I like Go Between at a price.

blackthroatedwind 02-23-2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Who beats her?

That is a pretty shabby group for the Gr 1 level.


That's a ridiculous question, which Pillow Pants addressed correctly, as continuing to call this race a Grade 1 epitomizes everything wrong with the grading system.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-23-2007 10:09 PM

Good luck with Go Between guys. He's a true dog-biscuit if you ask me.


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