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Kasept 08-31-2011 02:02 PM

9/3 (SAR): Woodward, Forego, Personal Ensign (G1's)
 
1st (1:00) Paris Opera S.

1 Mile (Inner turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $75,000

1 Unbridled Essence Lezcano J 121 L
2 Hit It Rich Solis A 119 L
3 Ultimate Class Castellano J J 119 L
4 Bet On the Blue Madrid S O 119 L
5 Sea Road Velasquez C 119 L
6 Thundering Emilia Dominguez R A 121 L
7 Deluxe Castro E 119 FTL
8 Sugar Again Maragh R 121 L
9 Evading Tempete (GB) Velazquez J R 119 L
10 It's Tea Time Garcia Alan 119 L



8th (4:39) Personal Ensign Invitational S. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Acronym Lezcano J 116 L
2 Ask the Moon Castellano J J 120 L
3 Pachattack Maragh R 116 L
4 Protesting Velazquez J R 116 L
5 Super Espresso Dominguez R A 116 L
6 Tiz Miz Sue Rocco J S Jr 116 L



9th (5:12) Forego S. (G1)

7 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Jackson Bend Nakatani C S 124 L
2 Sidney's Candy Velazquez J R 124 L
3 Golddigger's Boy Elliott S 124 L
4 Jersey Town Velasquez C 124 L
5 Hamazing Destiny Albarado R J 124 L
6 Escrow Kid Castillo O O 124 L
7 Aikenite Castellano J J 124 L
8 Regal Ransom Dominguez R A 124 L
9 Rule by Night Cohen D 124 L



10th (5:45) Woodward S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Ice Box Lezcano J 126 L
2 Mission Impazible Velazquez J R 126 L
3 Giant Oak Bridgmohan S X 126 L
4 Rule Castellano J J 126 L
5 Convocation Maragh R 126 L
6 Havre de Grace Dominguez R A 123 L
7 Flat Out Solis A 126 L
8 Mambo Meister Jara F 126 L

57rick 08-31-2011 02:05 PM

What a fantastic card Saturday!

Clip-Clop 08-31-2011 02:40 PM

"3lbs!!??" -Rick Porter

Kidding, but she has her work cut out for her for sure. Great racing all day though, wish I were there.

Sightseek 08-31-2011 08:53 PM

Win or lose, glad they took a shot with Grace.

ateamstupid 08-31-2011 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 804143)
Win or lose, glad they took a shot with Grace.

Agreed.

Interested to see how Sidney's Candy runs in the Forego. He's seemed up until this point to be a horse that's good at a lot of things but not great at anything.

pba1817 09-01-2011 02:14 AM

Woodward-
Filled with horses who are picking up weight, quite a bit in some cases, except HDG...

I like HDG and Mambo Meister exacta box...

Forego-
Exacta box Jackson Bend, Sidney's Candy, Aikenite...

Personal Ensign-
Appears to me they are all going to be breathing fore about 9f mark, so I go with the horse who at least has won going this far,(I know, different surface) Pachattack...

Seattleallstar 09-03-2011 11:09 AM

Convocation! Im all in on this one. Nice allowance win last time, and thinks today is the day he will finally take that next step as a legit graded stakes horse. Time to cash in on that Jerkens longshot in a big race at Saratoga!

Seattleallstar 09-03-2011 11:10 AM

Sidney's Candy is free money btw. He runs anything decent he wins this, another horrible G1 race

CSC 09-03-2011 12:05 PM

Interesting race from the daughter of super broodmare Hasili today.

Bigsmc 09-03-2011 04:20 PM

Huge race by Jackson Bend. Excellent job by Nick Zito with this one. Tough meet, but a Grade 1 should help.

Big fan of Jacks or Better Farms, they continue to breed very good horses with very average mares/sires.

They also know how to enjoy themselves at the track. Fun group, nice to see the "little guys" doing well.

Dahoss 09-03-2011 04:33 PM

I don't think he was beating the winner anyway, but Hamazing Destiny deserved better than he got from Albarado. He sucks.

Travis Stone 09-03-2011 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 804674)
Sidney's Candy is free money btw. He runs anything decent he wins this, another horrible G1 race

How decent was that?

Bigsmc 09-03-2011 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 804777)
How decent was that?

I laughed.

Travis Stone 09-03-2011 04:58 PM

Nice run from Havre de Grace but I want Flat Out going forward...

Ambitious spotting paid-off... but now what do you do? Don't you sorta have to keep going and head to the BC Classic?

King Glorious 09-03-2011 05:02 PM

I wonder do the fillies themselves get as intimidated facing the boys as their human connections do? The last few years have shown us over and over again that if given the chance, they can do this with regularity. I could see if the males were Alysheba and Sunday Silence and Formal Gold, and Holy Bull. Then you might be wise to avoid them. But Tizway and Flat Out and Giant Oak? I would rather take them on instead of Blind Luck. I'm happy to see her connections rewarded for not staying conservative and taking a chance where most "experts" said she'd have no chance.

mbahadur 09-03-2011 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 804779)
Ambitious spotting paid-off... but now what do you do? Don't you sorta have to keep going and head to the BC Classic?

Blind Luck would be a clear favorite in the Distaff if she goes in the Classic -- would like to see the BL-HDG rivalry continue (either with both in the Distaff or both in the Classic)

Dahoss 09-03-2011 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 804781)
where most "experts" said she'd have no chance.

I laughed.

Seattleallstar 09-03-2011 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 804777)
How decent was that?

that was pretty horrible, looks like the move to Pletcher hasnt done much

King Glorious 09-03-2011 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 804787)
that was pretty horrible, looks like the move to Pletcher hasnt done much

Had nothing to do with any trainer. This was a stupid placement in my opinion. It reminded me of what Zito used to keep doing with Commentator. Sidney's Candy has good speed for route racing but not for sprinting unless he gets a really light field that he totally outclasses. Like Commentator, he'll always be drowned in top class sprints. I thought he'd have had a much better chance in the Woodward.

Calzone Lord 09-03-2011 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 804781)
I wonder do the fillies themselves get as intimidated facing the boys as their human connections do? The last few years have shown us over and over again that if given the chance, they can do this with regularity. I could see if the males were Alysheba and Sunday Silence and Formal Gold, and Holy Bull. Then you might be wise to avoid them. But Tizway and Flat Out and Giant Oak? I would rather take them on instead of Blind Luck. I'm happy to see her connections rewarded for not staying conservative and taking a chance where most "experts" said she'd have no chance.

I can't believe anyone said she had no chance. She was 8-to-5 on the morning line -- and had run four Beyers of 105 or more in her last six races -- the rest of the entire field had four combined.

Other than Flat Out and Tizway -- the older males are puke. She beat one of the good ones today.

A lot of excuses have been made for the males of the last three or four years - they've been slower than freaking molasses.

Yet -- you hear how we aren't supposed to compare their figures with figures from past groups.

Since Beyer figures have been published in 1991 -- the last four Breeders Cup Juveniles run on a dirt surface have recieved the four highest winning Beyers in the history of the race.

War Pass, Street Sense, Uncle Mo, and Stevie Wonderboy -- would have all drowned horses like Arazi, Favorite Trick, and Unbridled's Song on Beyers. Yet, we are supposed to pretend that the older males of late (who have been about 10-to-12 points slower as a group than par past groups) are as good as they've ever been?

The great Bayakoa failed both times against males. The great Lady's Secret was just 1-for-7 lifetime against males. Horses like Precisionist and Quiet American could run figures in the mid 120's... how many females in history have done that? The answer is zero.


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