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Kasept 05-08-2022 04:12 AM

CD Kentucky Derby (G1): Rich Strike 101 (Keen Ice) E. Reed/S. Leon
CD Turf Classic S (G1): Santin 101 (Distorted Humor) B. Walsh/T. Gaffalione
CD Churchill Downs S. (G1): Jackie's Warrior 105 (Maclean's Music) S. Asmussen/J. Rosario
CD Derby City Distaff S. (G1): Obligatory 96 (Curlin) W. Mott/J. Ortiz
CD American Turf S. (G2): Stolen Base 90 (Bodemeister) M. Maker/F. Prat
CD Distaff Turf Mile S (G2): Speak of the Devil-FR 98 (Wootton Bassett-GB) C. Brown/F. Prat
CD Pat Day Mile S. (G2): Jack Christopher 98 (Munnings) C. Brown/J. Ortiz
CD Knicks Go S: Three Technique 91 (Mr Speaker) J. Cook/R. Bejarano

CD Kentucky Oaks (G1): Secret Oath 94 (Arrogate) D. Lukas/L. Saez
CD La Troienne S. (G1): Pauline's Pearl 94 (Tapit) S. Asmussen/J. Rosario
CD Eight Belles S. (G2): Matareya 93 (Pioneerof the Nile) B. Cox/F. Prat
CD Twin Spires T/Sprint S. (G2): Arrest Me Red 99 (Pioneerof the Nile) W. Ward/I. Ortiz
CD Edgewood S. (G2): New Year's Eve 90 (Kitten's Joy) B. Walsh/L. Saez
CD Alysheba S. (G2): Olympiad 103 (Speightstown) W. Mott/J. Alvarado
CD Modesty S. (G3): Bleecker Street 92 (Quality Road) C. Brown/F. Prat
CD 3yo-F OC/N1X (8.5f): Juju's Map 87 (Liam's Map) B. Cox/F. Geroux

CD Unbridled Sidney S: Toby's Heart 90 (Jack Milton) B. Lynch/J. Ortiz
CD Kentucky Juvenile S: Tom's Regret 65 (Tom's Tribute) J. Periban/T. Baze
CD Opening Verse S: Gray's Fable 93 (Gio Ponti) R. Attfield/L. Saez
CD William Walker S: Big Invasion 90 (Declaration of War) C. Clement/J. Rosario
CD St. Matthews S: Gunner 94 (Into Mischief) J. Ortiz/R. Gutierrez
CD Isaac Murphy Marathon S: Lone Rock 90 (Majestic Warrior) R. Diodoro/R. Vazquez

OP Natural State Breeders' S: The Mary Rose 93 (Macho Uno) J. Ortiz/E. Esquivel
OP AR Breeders' Ch. S: Souixper Charger 82 (Portobello Road) J. Prather/L. Quinonez

BEL Ruffian S (G2): Search Results 96 (Flatter) C. Brown/I. Ortiz
BEL Fort Marcy S (G2): L'Imperator-FR 99 (Holy Roman Emperor-IRE) C. Brown/E. Cancel
BEL Westchester S (G3): Cody's Wish 104 (Curlin) W. Mott/J. Alvarado
BEL Sheepshead Bay S (G2): Virginia Joy-GER 100 (Soldier Hollow-GB) C. Brown/T. McCarthy
BEL Flat Out S: First Constitution-CHI 98 (Constitution) T. Pletcher/J. Lezcano

WO Whimsical S (G3): Our Secret Agent 92 (Secret Circle) M. Casse/K. Kimura

MTH Serena's Song S: Miss Leslie 85 (Paynter) C. Gonzalez/A. Cruz

BTP Daryl E. Parker Memorial Tall Stack S: Tantrum 64 (Speightster) T. Hamm/M. Franklin

EVD EVD Distaff S: Winning Romance 75 (First Samurai) W. Calhoun/D. Parker
EVD EVD Classic S: Who Took the Money 89 (Street Boss) W. Calhoun/D. Parker

WRD Highland Ice S: Dame Plata 87 (Cross Traffic) F. Bravo/A. Pusac
WRD Wilma Mankiller S: Distorted Flash 73 (Flashback) J. Offolter/G. Mora

SA Senorita S (G3): Island of Love-IRE 81 (Kodiac-GB) P. D'Amato/J. Hernandez
SA Angels Flight S: Elm Drive 83 (Mohaymen) P. D'Amato/R. Gonzalez

SRP Jack Cole S: No Pasa Nada 63 (Attila's Storm) A. Valdez/A. Medellin
SRP C.O. Ken Kendrick Memorial S: Nostrangrtotherain (Shame On Charlie) C. Lambert/M. Perez

TUP Open Spring Futurity: One in Vermillion 64 (Army Mule) E. Martinez/H. Hernandez

GP English Channel S: California Frolic 76 (California Chrome) A. De La Cerda/E. Perez
GP Honey Ryder S: Ocean Safari 82 (Temple City) G. Zerpa/H. Berrios
GP Monroe S: Grand Ave Girl 85 (Runhappy) D. Fawkes/E. Jaramillo

HAW Third Chance S: Dancin At Midnight 81 (Bandbox) S. Manley/E. Baird

TDN Michael F. Rowland Memorial H: Direct Deceit 68 (Twinspired) N. Rivera/A. Diaz

Kasept 05-08-2022 08:09 AM

CD 3+ MSW (6f): Strobe 92 (Into Mischief) B. Cox/F. Geroux
CD 3yo MSW (1m): Congressman 91 (Constitution) T. Pletcher/I. Ortiz

Conrad 05-08-2022 08:35 AM

Love to hear Beyer's explanation for the 9pt difference between the CD Stakes and Derby City Distaff, both at 7f, with a raw time difference of .22 seconds.

Dahoss 05-08-2022 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1164360)
CD 3+ MSW (6f): Strobe 92 (Into Mischief) B. Cox/F. Geroux
CD 3yo MSW (1m): Congressman 91 (Constitution) T. Pletcher/I. Ortiz

A lot of people might have missed it but that was some debut by Strobe.

moses 05-08-2022 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1164423)
A lot of people might have missed it but that was some debut by Strobe.

Yes it was. I foolishly bet against.

freddymo 05-09-2022 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Conrad (Post 1164362)
Love to hear Beyer's explanation for the 9pt difference between the CD Stakes and Derby City Distaff, both at 7f, with a raw time difference of .22 seconds.

Pace right?

blackthroatedwind 05-09-2022 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1164460)
Pace right?

Yes. I actually spoke to him about it.

Conrad 05-09-2022 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 1164460)
Pace right?

Derby City Distaff: 22.36-44.95-109.75-122.17
CD Stakes: 22.76-45.50-109.50-121.95

Jackies Warrior was slower than normal early. I know he usually goes faster than that, but he didn't on Saturday.

He ran a slower than normal final time because he ran a slower than normal 1/4m and 1/2m.
The time is the time.
Giving him a higher number because he ran slower early is silly.

freddymo 05-09-2022 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Conrad (Post 1164469)
Derby City Distaff: 22.36-44.95-109.75-122.17
CD Stakes: 22.76-45.50-109.50-121.95

Jackies Warrior was slower than normal early. I know he usually goes faster than that, but he didn't on Saturday.

He ran a slower than normal final time because he ran a slower than normal 1/4m and 1/2m.
The time is the time.
Giving him a higher number because he ran slower early is silly.

Beyer spoke on Steve's show and they broke it out, Listen to the archives I get Beyer's thoughts. I get it but I don't get the need to make it such a fast race

Konk 05-09-2022 01:36 PM

Did Beyer also "adjust" the Derby winner's figure for greatly benefitting from that blistering fast (absurd) pace?

blackthroatedwind 05-09-2022 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Konk (Post 1164484)
Did Beyer also "adjust" the Derby winner's figure for greatly benefitting from that blistering fast (absurd) pace?

Most people would be embarrassed to post on a horse racing message board and let everyone know how poorly they understand racing. I admire your honesty.

Dahoss 05-09-2022 03:20 PM

No one has mentioned it (at least that I have seen) but that was a strong comeback race for Jack Christopher. I'd love to get a future on him for the Travers.

blackthroatedwind 05-09-2022 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1164486)
No one has mentioned it (at least that I have seen) but that was a strong comeback race for Jack Christopher. I'd love to get a future on him for the Travers.

I know at least one person who won't book that bet.

moses 05-09-2022 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1164486)
No one has mentioned it (at least that I have seen) but that was a strong comeback race for Jack Christopher. I'd love to get a future on him for the Travers.

I was thinking…why don’t some of these other races have futures bets? I don’t bet a lot but I enjoy the derby futures. Why not preakness and Belmont and travers and breeders cup? I’m sure there is a market for them.

blackthroatedwind 05-09-2022 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by moses (Post 1164488)
I was thinking…why don’t some of these other races have futures bets? I don’t bet a lot but I enjoy the derby futures. Why not preakness and Belmont and travers and breeders cup? I’m sure there is a market for them.

I was in Las Vegas in late June of 2019. I tried to bet futures on two horses in the Travers ( Looking at Bikinis, who had a maiden win in October and hadn't run since, he was running in a day or two, and Highest Honors, who had either a maiden win or a NW1X as well ) and asked in a few places and nobody wanted to get involved.

Oddly, they both actually ran in the Travers ( and finished nowhere ).

Konk 05-09-2022 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1164485)
Most people would be embarrassed to post on a horse racing message board and let everyone know how poorly they understand racing. I admire your honesty.

Still unable to recognize sarcasm other than your own.
Ok, I'll be your "Anthony" today.
Enjoy yourself. You seem to need it.


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