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DiscreetCat=Monster 09-18-2006 09:42 PM
Why Lukas went downhill
 
I was just listening to this radio show on the internet and they were talking about James Macinvale, and somehow Lukas name came up because he did the same thing to Satish Sanan the owner of Padua Stables caught Lukas robbing him. Thats why he named the horse Baffert trained to win the BC Juvenile VINDICATION. Man what goes around comes around. Thats why Lukas couldn't get anymore owners he was licking the gift horse in the mouth.

DiscreetCat=Monster 09-18-2006 09:50 PM
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I know, imagine, a downhill trainer that trained a champion last year. Who'd a thunk it.
How many stakes has he won this year now that Bob Lewis is gone?

9% winning is not going downhill what in the world are you smokin.

DiscreetCat=Monster 09-18-2006 09:55 PM
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Not sure, but it's not as if he doesn't still get Lewis's horses. Mrs. Lewis, and his son are running the stable I believe. He is having a horrible year, but fact is he trained a champ last year.
Fact is he ran her into the ground after that, what about that masterfull job of training Going Wild to a combined 128 length whoopin in the '05 Triple Crown and then never even gave the horse a break, if i can recall he put him in an impossible G2 Sprint race.

DiscreetCat=Monster 09-18-2006 10:01 PM
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I know, your right, he's a bad trainer. His past speaks for itself. Period.
I am right he went downhill

Live in the now man not in the past

even if he still is a good trainer the fact is he stole from his owners and doesn't deserve to have anymore owners buy multi million dollar stock and let him train them.

DiscreetCat=Monster 09-18-2006 10:07 PM
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I know, imagine, a downhill trainer that trained a champion last year. Who'd a thunk it.

Good thing you changed the subject. Are you saying there is no truth to the Vindication story?

DiscreetCat=Monster 09-18-2006 10:09 PM
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You are right, because I'm sure you know all of the facts to speak so surely about it. I was always taught to hear both sides of a story before making a conclusion. I've spoken with him a few times, and he has always been very nice. That's how I judge people. Not on third hand info that I heard on the radio. What you are saying about him and owners could very well be true, but unless you know for sure, seems a little irresponsible on your part to pass judgement.
Just cause he didn't jack your dough doesn't mean he didn't take Padua Stables money, how many horses of theirs does Lukas have?

DiscreetCat=Monster 09-18-2006 10:13 PM
Ok then you let jason know not to say things like that considering its horse racings only national broadcast.

http://www.racingjason.com/

then click on Sep 10th and go to the 15 min mark of the show

DiscreetCat=Monster 09-18-2006 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
So you know for sure he did right? Because you heard it thirdhand on the radio. He trains the same amount as Baffert does zero. What does that mean?
Considering he has like 10 horses in training and best of the best are in NY how many should he have?

HMMMM who trained champion Vindication?:p

DiscreetCat=Monster 09-18-2006 10:25 PM
Here is a picture of Going Wild after 05 Triple Crown

http://www.forgetfoo.com/images/blog/sam-ugliestdog.jpg

DiscreetCat=Monster 09-18-2006 10:30 PM
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Just listened to it, and he says that Sanan has accused Lukas of it. At no point does he say it is a fact like you have presented it. My point is you don't know the facts, and in your usual eloquent way presented them. Fact is Lukas is one of the all time greats.

This is a free country everyone is entitled to their own opinon and considering, you talk to Lukas of course you are gonna be bias. Plus it all makes sense, Your little story about ohh they just thought he might of taken thier money seems a little far out there.

DiscreetCat=Monster 09-18-2006 10:31 PM
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Baffert did, and he no longer trains for him. :) :) :)

And Baffert doesn't train on the East Coast :D


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