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Kasept 06-13-2013 01:54 PM

6/16 (MTH): Pegasus S. (G3), Dan Horn H.
 
10th (5:29) Dan Horn H.

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $60,000

MTO Hop Skip and Away Bravo J 119 L
2 Richiefromshoprite Saez G 116 L
3 Arlo Lopez P 120 L
4 Silent Appeal Franco M 117 Blk-Off L
5 Cacaway Serpa A 117 L
6 Hermosillo Cotto P L Jr 117 L
7 Javerre Alvarado R Jr 123 L
8 Ciro's Clearance Moya R F 112 L
9 Chilkoot Trail Santiago V 113 L
10 Flirtatious Smile Pellot K L 109 L
11 Jersey Blue Giant Velazquez J R 118 L
12 Love Who Ferrer J C 112 L
13 Fine Friends Uske S 111 L
14 Final Forest Trujillo E 116 L

A-Coupled: Silent Appeal and Ciro's Clearance
B-Coupled: Jersey Blue Giant and Fine Friends



11th (6:00) Pegasus S. (G3)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Verrazano Velazquez J R 123 L
2 Edge of Reality Elliott S 118 L
3 Gefest Karamanos H A 118 L
4 Reporting Star Serpa A 116 L
5 Bethel Pedroza B 116 L
6 Itsmyluckyday Smith M E 123 L
7 Kanturk Kid Serpa A 116 L

A-Coupled: Reporting Star and Kanturk Kid

miraja2 06-14-2013 12:35 PM

Verrazano is 6/5 on the ML. If he ends up anywhere close to that, isn't he a GREAT bet here? I think he'd be a legitimate 1/5 in this race. Hard for me to see him losing this one.

Gate Dancer 06-14-2013 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 931995)
Verrazano is 6/5 on the ML. If he ends up anywhere close to that, isn't he a GREAT bet here? I think he'd be a legitimate 1/5 in this race. Hard for me to see him losing this one.

Well.........I know I'm being stubborn here but I think Itsmyluckyday gives him all he can handle.

OTM Al 06-14-2013 12:52 PM

And between the two and the fact there are only 6 betting interests we're looking at a $3.50 exacta. Good one to watch. Betting not so much

ateamstupid 06-14-2013 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 931995)
Verrazano is 6/5 on the ML. If he ends up anywhere close to that, isn't he a GREAT bet here? I think he'd be a legitimate 1/5 in this race. Hard for me to see him losing this one.

You think he should be 1/5 against Itsmyluckyday? Based on what?

miraja2 06-14-2013 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 932013)
You think he should be 1/5 against Itsmyluckyday? Based on what?

Well, okay 1/5 was an overstatement but I think its likely he ends up being the best horse in this crop. This race sets up perfectly with him drawing the rail going 8.5f on that track and the lack of other quality speed.

If Itsmyluckyday couldn't beat him in the Derby where Verrazano pressed that pace...I don't see how he'll beat him here.

Sightseek 06-14-2013 08:04 PM

So glad that they were able to get both "big" horses. If everyone stays healthy the 3 year old races should continue to stay interesting this year.

ateamstupid 06-14-2013 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 932023)
Well, okay 1/5 was an overstatement but I think its likely he ends up being the best horse in this crop. This race sets up perfectly with him drawing the rail going 8.5f on that track and the lack of other quality speed.

If Itsmyluckyday couldn't beat him in the Derby where Verrazano pressed that pace...I don't see how he'll beat him here.

Whether it was the distance, slop or both, it's pretty obvious to me the Derby isn't a good representation of Itsmyluckyday's ability, especially considering he came back to run 2nd on a dry track in the Preakness. The cutback in the Pegasus should suit him too considering his best race was at 8.5 in the Holy Bull.

They're both talented horses who should have nice 2nd halves of the year. I don't see much of a gap between them at all.

10 pnt move up 06-15-2013 02:50 PM

1/5 seems a little strong but I think Verrazano is a likely winner and just a faster horse than Itsmyluckyday's. The Derby was a debacle, and if you toss the slow pace wood win you still are left with two very fast races to go off of and I just don't see anyone challenging his initial speed so he is likely to get the best trip.

This maybe a case as well in say the pick four that both horses are about equally weighted on the tickets so that to me creates a little bit of value.

Sightseek 06-16-2013 05:07 PM

Itsmyluckyday pulled up on the backstretch. :(

Revidere 06-16-2013 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 932372)
Itsmyluckyday pulled up on the backstretch. :(

Plesa said it doesn't appear to be life threatening. Appears to be a stress fracture. X-rays being taken. Smith felt something go wrong behind when ranging up to Verazzano.

Danzig 06-16-2013 06:41 PM

Smith said afterward that he felt the son of Lawyer Ron was off in his left hind and he pulled him up as a precautionary measure.

"It felt like a left hind. He actually broke really sharp and was just about to go up to press (front-running) Verrazano and I felt something behind," the Hall of Fame rider said. "I wasn't going to take a chance and decided it was better to be safe than sorry so I just took the cautious road."

Itsmyluckyday, a local favorite among the record 28,951in attendance for the Father's Day feature, was taken back to trainer Eddie Plesa Jr.'s stable for further examination.





Read more on BloodHorse.com: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz2WQSXnc94

Calzone Lord 06-16-2013 08:56 PM

The early DNF to Itsmyluckyday contributed to the race turning into a paid public workout for a talented winner.





:zz:


Why is it that the Internet persona of so many respectable racehorses always sucks?

10 pnt move up 06-17-2013 12:20 AM

96 Beyer figure, not impressed I guess as he set what seemed to me very pedestrian fractions so I am almost certain to play against him if there is anything in the race next out that can push him.

Danzig 06-17-2013 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 932413)
The early DNF to Itsmyluckyday contributed to the race turning into a paid public workout for a talented winner.





:zz:


Why is it that the Internet persona of so many respectable racehorses always sucks?

:tro:

not sure what's worse, people typing for a horse as tho he's the one talking...or people 'liking' it.

Sightseek 06-17-2013 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 932413)
The early DNF to Itsmyluckyday contributed to the race turning into a paid public workout for a talented winner.





:zz:


Why is it that the Internet persona of so many respectable racehorses always sucks?

You should start your own page and give the horse a "heel" personality.

Kasept 06-17-2013 06:53 AM

Ed Plesa this a.m., limited Xrays with racetrack technology negative on Itsmyluckyday but full bone scan to be performed for complete picture. Not in any discomfort. Mentioned pelvic area or something else 'up high'. Believes at this point that whatever issue is, should not be career threatening and 'doesn't say that as being too optimistic.'

casp0555 06-17-2013 11:32 AM

great news Steve, thanks for posting the update

Danzig 06-19-2013 11:19 AM

pelvic fracture


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