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Kasept 11-25-2014 12:35 PM

11/28-30 (CD): Kentucky Derby Future Wager (Pool 1)
 
KENTUCKY DERBY FUTURE WAGER POOL 1

Friday, Nov. 28-Sunday, Nov. 30

1 American Pharoah 12-1
2 Blofeld 20-1
3 Calculator 20-1
4 Carpe Diem 20-1
5 Classy Class 50-1
6 Competitive Edge 20-1

7 Daredevil 20-1
8 Dortmund 50-1
9 Eagle 50-1
10 El Kabeir 50-1
11 Frosted 50-1
12 I Spent It 50-1

13 Imperia 50-1
14 Lord Nelson 30-1
15 Lucky Player 50-1
16 Mr. Z 30-1
17 Ocho Ocho Ocho 20-1
18 Ostrolenka 50-1

19 Punctuate 50-1
20 Texas Red 15-1
21 The Great War 30-1
22 Unblunted 50-1
23 Upstart 20-1
24 Mutuel Field – All Other 3YOs 3-5

Indian Charlie 11-25-2014 01:03 PM

Some pretty nice names on this one. The field, discounting the odds, seems like a pretty bad play.

Bogey 11-25-2014 01:14 PM

Dortmund seems like a decent play at anything near the ML.

Kitan 11-25-2014 01:55 PM

PPs will be available here: http://www.brisnet.com/brisnet_promo...y15future1.pdf

Kasept 11-26-2014 08:10 AM

WYNN DERBY FUTURES/PROPS

Kasept 11-26-2014 08:11 AM

ASHER: Derby Sire prop bet a possibility..

http://www.courier-journal.com/story...-bet/70104350/

Churchill Downs is exploring the possibility of adding a Kentucky Derby future wager option that would involve betting on which stallion will sire the eventual Derby winner.

Churchill spokesman John Asher said Tuesday that the track doesn't have immediate plans to implement the bet, but that the first step is to get approval for it from the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission. The wager is on the agenda for the KHRC's meeting next Tuesday in Lexington.

The Derby sire wager would mimic the format of the current Kentucky Derby Future Wager, in its 17th year, with 23 individual horses and a 24th betting interest that would include all other sires.

RockHardTen1985 11-26-2014 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1007023)
KENTUCKY DERBY FUTURE WAGER POOL 1

Friday, Nov. 28-Sunday, Nov. 30

1 American Pharoah 12-1
2 Blofeld 20-1
3 Calculator 20-1
4 Carpe Diem 20-1
5 Classy Class 50-1
6 Competitive Edge 20-1

7 Daredevil 20-1
8 Dortmund 50-1
9 Eagle 50-1
10 El Kabeir 50-1
11 Frosted 50-1
12 I Spent It 50-1

13 Imperia 50-1
14 Lord Nelson 30-1
15 Lucky Player 50-1
16 Mr. Z 30-1
17 Ocho Ocho Ocho 20-1
18 Ostrolenka 50-1

19 Punctuate 50-1
20 Texas Red 15-1
21 The Great War 30-1
22 Unblunted 50-1
23 Upstart 20-1
24 Mutuel Field – All Other 3YOs 3-5


If I had to choose 5. I would take Blofeld and Classy Class who IMO could be as good as anyone, but they could both be distance challenged. Then Frosted, Imperia and Lord Nelson. Those would be the Joey S big 5.

Kitan 11-27-2014 08:43 PM

Frosted and Dortmund would be the two for me that are worth the odds at this point. Texas Red, Ocho Ocho Ocho, and Upstart are also ones I'm keeping an eye on but at this point the value might not be worth the risk.

duffy 11-28-2014 10:08 AM

I really like ml on unblunted.huge upside!

cakes44 11-28-2014 03:43 PM

Info on Compeitive Edge?

Smarty Cide 11-28-2014 06:12 PM

I thru some money on Dortmund, Ocho Ocho Ocho, Unblunted, and Upstart

Bogey 11-28-2014 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarty Cide (Post 1007344)
I thru some money on Dortmund, Ocho Ocho Ocho, Unblunted, and Upstart

Depending on Dortmund's performance Saturday at Churchill will definitely influence his closing price on Sunday. 45-1 at Wynn is the way to go especially if he takes care of business on Saturday. Good luck

Kasept 11-30-2014 07:10 AM

KDFW ODDS BOARD

Closes 6p ET..

Kasept 11-30-2014 05:47 PM

FINAL KDFW ODDS

EXACTA WILL PAYS

1 American Pharoah 12-1 12-1 $27.60
2 Blofeld 20-1 40-1 $82.80
3 Calculator 20-1 71-1 $145.20
4 Carpe Diem 20-1 15-1 $33.00
5 Classy Class 50-1 126-1 $254.40
6 Competitive Edge 20-1 47-1 $97.20

7 Daredevil 20-1 48-1 $98.80
8 Dortmund 50-1 9-1 $20.20
9 Eagle 50-1 54-1 $110.20
10 El Kabeir 50-1 74-1 $151.80
11 Frosted 50-1 38-1 $78.80
12 I Spent It 50-1 100-1 $203.40

13 Imperia 50-1 27-1 $56.40
14 Lord Nelson 30-1 72-1 $146.60
15 Lucky Player 50-1 130-1 $263.20
16 Mr. Z 30-1 47-1 $97.20
17 Ocho Ocho Ocho 20-1 29-1 $61.40
18 Ostrolenka 50-1 140-1 $282.20

19 Punctuate 50-1 60-1 $123.20
20 Texas Red 15-1 14-1 $30.20
21 The Great War 30-1 72-1 $147.40
22 Unblunted 50-1 185-1 $373.60
23 Upstart 20-1 53-1 $109.40
24 Mutuel Field – All Other 3YOs 3/5 3/5 $3.20

Win Wagering: $185,492 ... Exacta Wagering: $49,082... TOTAL: $234,574

blackthroatedwind 11-30-2014 06:08 PM

And I thought people taking 12:1 on American Pharoah were silly....but then I saw the odds on Dortmund!

Hilarious.

blackthroatedwind 11-30-2014 06:14 PM

Upstart, on the other hand, at 53:1 is pretty interesting.

Bogey 12-01-2014 05:52 AM

Eagle at 54-1 was an interesting value play. He didn't have an ideal trip and finished well at Churchill. He's in good hands and should only get better.

Dortmund looked awesome again, but 9-1 at this point is ridiculous. The play was to lock it in at 45-1 at Wynn.

Overall, this early pool gets people more familiar with the prospects moving forward.

Smarty Cide 12-01-2014 06:44 PM

Each pool i try to pick a few value plays and just hope they make the gate come the first saturday in may

Indian Charlie 12-02-2014 12:35 AM

I thought Silver Ride, the runner up coming out of the Dortmund race, looked interesting.

blackthroatedwind 12-02-2014 08:23 AM

The funniest one might be Frosted, who ran an impressive race against the bias in the Remsen, going off at 38:1. I am not saying this is a great price, but in relative terms compared to Dortmund, it's downright incredible.


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