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Kasept 10-12-2016 05:49 PM

BC NOTEBOOK: Sprint, F&M Sprint, Turf Sprint, Dirt Mile ~ Final Fields
 
6th (1:21) TwinSpires Breeders' Cup Sprint (G1)

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,500,000

1 Mind Your Biscuits Rosario J 124 L
2 Drefong Garcia M 124 L
3 Delta Bluesman Jaramillo E 126 L
4 Joking Franco M 126 L
5 A. P. Indian Bravo J 126 L
6 Lord Nelson Prat F 126 L
7 Masochistic Smith M E 126 L
8 Noholdingback Bear Da Silva E R 124 L
9 Limousine Liberal Ortiz J L 126 L

Kasept 10-12-2016 05:50 PM

10th (4:01) Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Sprint (G1)

7 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Paola Queen Castellano J J 122 L
2 Haveyougoneaway Velazquez J R 124 L
3 Tara's Tango Bejarano R 124 L
4 Gomo Gutierrez Mario 122 L
5 Wonder Gal Carmouche K 124 L
6 By the Moon Ortiz J L 124 L
7 Gloryzapper Elliott S 124 L
8 Carina Mia Leparoux J R 122 L
9 Paulassilverlining Talamo J 124 L
10 Wavell Avenue Rosario J 124 L
11 Irish Jasper Ortiz I Jr 124 L
12 Finest City Smith M E 124 L
13 Spelling Again Saez L 124 Blk-Off L

Kasept 10-12-2016 05:55 PM

7th (2:05) Breeders' Cup Turf Sprint (G1)

About 6 1/2 Furlongs (Downhill turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Pure Sensation Carmouche K 126 L
2 Obviously (IRE) Prat F 126 L
3 Mongolian Saturday Montalvo C 126
4 Home of The Brave (IRE) Doyle J 126 L
5 Karar (GB) Benoist G 126 L
6 Calgary Cat Contreras L 126 L
7 Suedois (FR) Tudhope D A 126 L
8 Washington DC (IRE) Moore R L 124 L
9 A Lot Castellano J J 126 L
10 Ambitious Brew Smith M E 126 L
11 Undrafted Velazquez J R 126 L
12 Om Stevens G L 126 L
13 Holy Lute Theriot H J II 126 L
14 Celestine Rosario J 123 L
AE Lady Shipman Ortiz I Jr 123 L
AE Green Mask Leparoux J R 126 L

Kasept 10-13-2016 09:22 PM

7th (3:05) Las Vegas Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile (G1)

1 Mile | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Vyjack Prat F 126 L
2 Tom's Ready Rosario J 123 L
3 Dortmund Garcia M 126 L
4 Point Piper Gutierrez Mario 126 L
5 Accelerate Baze T C 123 L
6 Texas Chrome McMahon C 123 L
7 Runhappy Stevens G L 126
8 Tamarkuz Smith M E 126 L
9 Gun Runner Geroux F 123 L

Kasept 10-14-2016 05:46 AM

Zacney/Servis say Cathryn Sophia will pass on Cup after modest work. Goes through sales ring in November. Not sure yet if it's as broodmare only or racing/broodmare prospect.

Kasept 10-14-2016 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1079201)
Zacney/Servis say Cathryn Sophia will pass on Cup after modest work. Goes through sales ring in November. Not sure yet if it's as broodmare only or racing/broodmare prospect.

Per Zacney this morning, Cathryn Sophia will be offered as a racing OR broodmare prospect. Is NOT retired.

dpkovalesky 10-17-2016 01:52 PM

Any chatter of Mott bringing over Long on Value over for the Turf Sprint?

taxicab 10-18-2016 07:52 PM

I'm only guessing here....
If Pletcher runs Curalina in the Distaff she's the fourth choice.
If he runs her in the F/M Sprint........she's the chalk(maybe).
I'm starting to think she shows up in the 7 furlong race.
I think Curalina would be tough as nails in the F/M Sprint.

RHT2004 10-18-2016 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1079120)
Breeders' Cup Sprint, $1.5 million, 6f, 3+

Masochistic (Ron Ellis)
Lord Nelson (Bob Baffert)
A. P. Indian (Arnaud Delacour)
Drefong (Bob Baffert)
Delta Bluesman (Jorge Navarro)
Joking (Charlton Baker)
Limousine Liberal (Ben Colebrook)
Noholdingbackbear (Michael DePaulo)
All Run (Richard Baltas)
Mind Your Biscuits (Robert Falcone Jr.)

Biscuits is very intriguing to me at a giant price. Improving 3yr old who never seems to get pace. Using with the obvious 2 horses to beat from Bob.

RHT2004 10-18-2016 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taxicab (Post 1079563)
I'm only guessing here....
If Pletcher runs Curalina in the Distaff she's the fourth choice.
If he runs her in the F/M Sprint........she's the chalk(maybe).
I'm starting to think she shows up in the 7 furlong race.
I think Curalina would be tough as nails in the F/M Sprint.

I think Hollendorfer is holding an ace in the girls sprint.
I'm guessing Curalina is cooked. Its been beaten to death but how did she skip that Keeneland G1??

knickslions2 10-19-2016 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1079567)
Biscuits is very intriguing to me at a giant price. Improving 3yr old who never seems to get pace. Using with the obvious 2 horses to beat from Bob.

AP Indian

Kasept 10-19-2016 09:01 AM

Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Sprint: Stonetastic staying home
By Marty McGee

Stonetastic has been declared out of the $1 million Breeders’ Cup Filly and Mare Sprint following a runner-up finish as the favorite Oct. 8 in the Thoroughbred Club of America Stakes at Keeneland.

“We needed a lot of scenarios to go right to convince us to go,” said Kelly Breen, who trains Stonetastic for the Stoneway Farm of Jim Stone. “We just couldn’t get enough stars to align. If she would’ve won at Keeneland, we probably would’ve gone, but she didn’t. That was the main thing.”

Stonetastic, 5, was prominent early in the last two editions of the Filly and Mare Sprint, finishing fourth at 3-1 in 2014 at Santa Anita and eighth at 7-1 last year at Keeneland. Her defection removes a key element of speed from the 2016 renewal, which is supposed to have several strong fillies turning back in distance – Curalina, Tara’s Tango, and Paid Up Subscriber – when pre-entries are taken Monday. The race will be run Nov. 5 at Santa Anita.

Stonetastic “is back at Monmouth doing good,” said Breen. “She’ll run once or twice more here on the East Coast before Mr. Stone has her bred next year. I’m sure we’ll wonder how she would’ve done if speed’s holding Breeders’ Cup Day, but the fact is she didn’t finish in the money the last two times, and seven-eighths probably isn’t her ideal distance. There were more factors working against us than for us.”

Meanwhile, Curalina had her third breeze since her runner-up finish to Cavorting in the Aug. 27 Personal Ensign, going five furlongs in 1:01.20 on Saturday at Belmont Park. Trainer Todd Pletcher has said Curalina will be pre-entered in both the Distaff and Filly and Mare Sprint.

Haveyougoneaway, the winner of the Grade 1 Ballerina for trainer Tom Morley in her last start, sizzled five furlongs in 58.40 seconds at Belmont on Oct. 13.

In other recent works at Belmont for the Filly and Mare Sprint, all last Saturday at a half-mile: Wavell Avenue, 49.60 seconds; Paulassilverlining, 50 seconds (training track); and Paola Queen, 48.60 seconds.

Likewise, there has been plenty of morning activity recently at Santa Anita, led by Tara’s Tango going five furlongs Sunday in a minute for Jerry Hollendorfer. On Tuesday, By the Moon went five furlongs in 1:00.60, Enchanting Lady sped a half-mile in 46 seconds, and Gloryzapper went a half-mile in 47.40 seconds in her first work since capturing the Oct. 9 L.A. Woman.

A good number of Filly and Mare Sprint prospects have been consigned to auctions in Kentucky after the Breeders’ Cup. Entered in the Nov. 7 Fasig-Tipton sale are Curalina, Haveyougoneaway, Wavell Avenue, Paid Up Subscriber, and Luminance, while Enchanting Lady and Paola Queen are in the Keeneland sale, which starts Nov. 8.

RHT2004 10-19-2016 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1079575)
AP Indian

He's OK. He's also the likely chalk.

pweizer 10-19-2016 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1079585)
He's OK. He's also the likely chalk.

3rd choice at best behind Lord Nelson and Masochistic. Possibly fourth behind Defrong.

Paul

Secretriat34 10-19-2016 02:10 PM

run Un -Happy
 
Jim McIngvale's reigning champion male sprinter Runhappy continued to tune up for the Nov. 4 Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile (gr. I) at Santa Anita Park, putting in a one-mile work in 1:39 at Keeneland the morning of Oct . 19. (TERRIBLE TIME )

While trainer Laura Wohlers originally wanted to work the son of Super Saver wire to wire, the 4-year-old colt was extremely obstinate under exercise rider Marcus O'Donnell and needed a good deal of prodding before he ultimately broke off at the three-eighths pole. The duo clicked off splits of :13 1/5, :24 3/5, :36 3/5, :48, 1:00, 1:12 2/5, and 1:25 1/5, with Runhappy looking a bit hot as he came off the track.

imo..The horse is in pain and not ready for the BCM

Wohlers also worked Runhappy a mile in 1:38 4/5 Oct. 12 and said she was more encouraged this time around with how the defending Breeders' Cup Sprint (gr. I) winner handled the second part of his move.



"Our biggest key today was to get him to pick it up around the second turn more because last week he really didn't," Wohlers said. "Last week, he kind of did three eighths and then kind of got slower. He's going into a two-turn mile so it's important that second turn was good, and the second turn he did in about :23. So that was good. But I'm happy with it. We wanted him to understand this is not just a one-turn thing."

The antics Runhappy displayed prior to his work, Wohlers acknowleged, are "something he does every day." She said he has become a bit more "stubborn" as he has gotten older. Despite his tendancy to get distracted, Wohlers said the team is not concerned about the amount of morning training traffic he is going to encounter once he ships to Santa Anita Oct. 23, citing the colt's success when he captured the $300,000 Malibu Stakes (gr. I) there last December 2015

"He was always like that last year and we used to let him stand around for 30-40 minutes ... and that became kind of a bad habit," Wohlers explained. "So, this year we've tried to get him to stop that. It kind of negates the warm up when you have to stand for 20-30 minutes. He's always been really bad when things distract him and wanting to stop ... but hey, we're getting ready to go to Santa Anita and we went through it last year. And now with two strong works, he doesn't need to do a whole lot going into the race." {{ WHY ARE THEY RATIONALIZING WHY HE DOERSN'T WANT TO GO ? HE IS HURTING }

In the Dirt Mile, Runhappy will attempt to earn his first win beyond seven furlongs. His only losses in nine starts have come at a mile and beyond, with the first being a ninth-place finish in the 2015 Lecomte Stakes (gr. III) and his most recent defeat coming when he finished fourth in the $100,000 Ack Ack Stakes (gr. III) going eight furlongs at Churchill Downs Oct. 1.

The Ack Ack was also Runhappy's first start since the Malibu as he has been plagued this year with bone bruising in his right front cannon. He has been on an ambitious catch-up schedule ever since, but Wohlers maintains they have not lost faith in what his blazing speed can accomplish on a big stage.

"I do think he will go the (mile) distance," Wohlers said. "I would have liked to have maybe seen the mile (works) be a bit quicker. We would have liked not to have to be rushing him so much, but he needed that time off. We'll see how it goes."

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I read this article and feel as though the horse doesn't want to run..BECAUSE HE IS IN PAIN....WHY DO THEY FORCE HIM TO DO WHAT HE DOES NOT WANT TO??

AH GREED...THE TIME TESTED MOTIVATOR.

They should not race him, if he has such garbage works...
please dont break him

gamblin4ever 10-20-2016 06:40 AM

Since they are racing him, they should have him trying to defending the sprint title instead of trying the mile.

cakes44 10-20-2016 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamblin4ever (Post 1079641)
Since they are racing him, they should have him trying to defending the sprint title instead of trying the mile.

Agree 100%. I guess I don't see the upside to winning the dirt mile as opposed to the sprint?

gamblin4ever 10-21-2016 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1079653)
Agree 100%. I guess I don't see the upside to winning the dirt mile as opposed to the sprint?


They're probably thinking Dirt Mile is the easier race.. The Sprint is primed to be one helluva race.

Kasept 10-22-2016 12:37 PM

DRF/Nicole Russo: BC Turf Sprint: Add Celestine to the mix

Add another name to the hat for what is likely to be an overflow group of pre-entries for the Breeders' Cup Turf Sprint when that deadline comes Monday. Grade 1 winner Celestine is now expected to cut back in distance for that event, her connections told the Keeneland communications staff after she worked this morning (more on that work, and other Kentucky Breeders' Cup contenders, from Marty McGee here).

In her two most recent starts, Celestine won the Grade 1 Just a Game Stakes at Belmont, then was third (behind Photo Call and champion Tepin) in the Grade 1 First Lady at Keeneland, both races at a mile. But in three starts at less than a mile on turf last year, she won twice (at seven furlongs and five furlongs) and was second once. The Turf Sprint is contested at 6 1/2 furlongs on Santa Anita's idiosyncratic downhill course.

"She won a seven-furlong race at Belmont and she showed a lot of speed at Gulfstream when she broke her maiden and won a little overnight stakes," assistant trainer Rodolphe Brisset said. "We feel pretty comfortable shortening her up. She bounced back really, really good from [the First Lady]."

Kasept 10-24-2016 05:41 AM

Above fully updated with anticipated pre-entries..


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