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Kasept 02-03-2021 05:47 PM

2/6 (TAM): Sam F. Davis, Endeavour, Tampa Bay (G3's), Suncoast
 



Rudeboyelvis 02-04-2021 08:15 AM

Ricochet should get a whale of a set up in the Sam Davis if good enough. should be a nice price to boot.

knickslions2 02-04-2021 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1149024)
Ricochet should get a whale of a set up in the Sam Davis if good enough. should be a nice price to boot.

I’m sure the Pletcher horse will get hammered here which I hope. Really looking forward to seeing Candy Man Rocket stretch out. Horse is fast and will have my money in this one. Ricochet is interesting here too Dan. Nice exacta horse for sure.


http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_vi...param3=1867404

Rudeboyelvis 02-04-2021 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1149026)
I’m sure the Pletcher horse will get hammered here which I hope. Really looking forward to seeing Candy Man Rocket stretch out. Horse is fast and will have my money in this one. Ricochet is interesting here too Dan. Nice exacta horse for sure.


http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_vi...param3=1867404

Hi Tom - link is broken, but I'm seeing a ton of speed inside CMR with not a lot of time to get position going into the first turn. He or anyone else that can take this on the front is going to be pulling off a massive accomplishment.

Not saying he won't win (he's def on my ticket) but speed hung wide going 2 turns for the first time in a G3 is a lot to ask for.

I think this is wide open (realistically 8 or 9 of these wouldn't shock me), and I've seen enough SFD's to know that prices are no surprise (King Gullimero most recently).

Hidden Stash, Known Agenda, Ricochet, and CMR for me.

blackthroatedwind 02-04-2021 03:25 PM

The 6:1 ML on Known Agenda is hilarious. He will likely be a strong favorite and is much the horse to beat.

I guess his under the radar trainer confused them

Dahoss 02-04-2021 04:30 PM

I’ll be surprised if Smiley Sobotka isn’t in the exacta and have him as the horse to beat

blackthroatedwind 02-04-2021 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1149050)
I’ll be surprised if Smiley Sobotka isn’t in the exacta and have him as the horse to beat

I'll take Known Agenda over Smiley Sobotka and the loser has to agree with Alabama Stakes that Songbird really won the Distaff.

Rudeboyelvis 02-04-2021 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1149046)
The 6:1 ML on Known Agenda is hilarious. He will likely be a strong favorite and is much the horse to beat.

I guess his under the radar trainer confused them

I’d hate to pile on someone who’s job I’d probably screw up worse, but man it’s bad. The other day there was a 15-1 the went off at 9-5 and won by daylight.

Dahoss 02-04-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1149053)
I'll take Known Agenda over Smiley Sobotka and the loser has to agree with Alabama Stakes that Songbird really won the Distaff.

:D

You got it

blackthroatedwind 02-04-2021 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1149054)
I’d hate to pile on someone who’s job I’d probably screw up worse, but man it’s bad. The other day there was a 15-1 the went off at 9-5 and won by daylight.

I agree, but some of these people make it so hard on themselves. Making Known Agenda 6:1, when the absolute most he can be is 5:2, creates havoc for the rest of your line, especially in a 12 horse field. You've lost and the battle hasn't even started.

I mean, it's not making Caddo River the second choice dopey, but it's not too clever. Lines are hard enough, get the easy part right.

Alabama Stakes 02-04-2021 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1149050)
I’ll be surprised if Smiley Sobotka isn’t in the exacta and have him as the horse to beat

Wasn’t Hidden Stash more impressive earlier that day ? Passed 5 hosses on that slow pace in his race.

Dahoss 02-05-2021 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1149057)
Wasn’t Hidden Stash more impressive earlier that day ? Passed 5 hosses on that slow pace in his race.

You’ve always been hung up on a horse passing others. In this case, it would behoove you to actually watch the race. He certainly didn’t pass 5 horses.

Alabama Stakes 02-05-2021 11:39 AM

Actually he did and despite being a mile wide on the first turn he had the fortitude and energy to fight on down the stretch for the win . It wasn’t a ground saving trip of leading then giving up the lead then leading , then being clear and still not being able to hold on.

Mike 02-05-2021 12:17 PM

Any thoughts on Lucky Law in the Sam Davis?

Dahoss 02-05-2021 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1149062)
Actually he did and despite being a mile wide on the first turn he had the fortitude and energy to fight on down the stretch for the win . It wasn’t a ground saving trip of leading then giving up the lead then leading , then being clear and still not being able to hold on.

He was 3rd three furlongs into the race. Watch it again with your eyes open.

knickslions2 02-05-2021 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 1149067)
Any thoughts on Lucky Law in the Sam Davis?

Hard to say Mike. While horse should be better on dirt I think this is a very tough spot for the horse.

Alabama Stakes 02-06-2021 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1149046)
The 6:1 ML on Known Agenda is hilarious. He will likely be a strong favorite and is much the horse to beat.

I guess his under the radar trainer confused them

It’s not every day you see a hoss feel the sting of the whip around half way through a 9 furlong race, though he continued on well in the stretch to only get beat 9....

Dahoss 02-06-2021 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1149095)
It’s not every day you see a hoss feel the sting of the whip around half way through a 9 furlong race, though he continued on well in the stretch to only get beat 9....

I figured you’d respond to the Songbird post. I just didn’t think it’d be almost 2 days later.

You okay?

opusone 02-06-2021 08:19 AM

The local forecast changed a bit. The rain was supposed to start tonight. I hope they stay on the turf.

Alabama Stakes 02-06-2021 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1149100)
I figured you’d respond to the Songbird post. I just didn’t think it’d be almost 2 days later.

You okay?

Just remembering Songbird drowning them in the CCA oaks And prestigious Alabama Stakes at Saratoga that summer.


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