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4/1 (FG): LA Derby, Muniz, New Orleans (G2's)

4th (1:47) Duncan F. Kenner S.

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Travelin Man Velazquez J R 117 L
2 Joe Hollywood Napravnik R 117 L
3 Soaring Stocks Velazquez J R 123 L
4 Gantry Eramia R E 121 L
5 Sweetsouthernmoon Mena M 119 L
6 Cash Refund Graham J 117 L
7 Zero Rate Policy Maragh R 119 L

A-Coupled: Travelin Man and Soaring Stocks

6th (2:49) Crescent City Derby

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $75,000

1 Event Center Hernandez B J Jr 122 L
2 Wilma's Numberone Jacinto J 117 L
3 Freddie One Bite Napravnik R 122 L
4 Lemon Sherbert Hebert T J 122 L
5 Four Joes Bridgmohan S X 122 L
6 Benwill Albarado R J 122 L
7 Look At the Time Lanerie C J 122 L
8 Beanwah'smachine Sellers S J 122 L
9 Hud's Rebellion Velazquez J R 122 L
10 Arkansas Martini Clark K D 122 L
11 E Valentino Melancon G 122 L

8th (3:51) New Orleans H. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Nehro Bridgmohan S X 116 L
2 Mission Impazible Castellano J J 122 L
3 Nates Mineshaft Campbell J M 118 L
4 Toby's Corner Castro E 117 L
5 Redeemed Prado E S 120 L
6 Mister Marti Gras Velazquez J R 114 L
7 Thirtyfirststreet Leparoux J R 113 L
8 Fast Alex Albarado R J 116 L
9 Pants On Fire Napravnik R 118 L

9th (4:22) Mervin H. Muniz Jr. Memorial H. (G2)

About 1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Willyconker (IRE) Rosario J 121 L
2 Slow Pace Castellano J J 114 L
3 Wilkinson Hernandez B J Jr 114 L
4 Smart Bid Prado E S 121 L
5 Swift Warrior Leparoux J R 115 L
6 Casino Host Velazquez J R 113 L
7 Suntracer Bridgmohan S X 114 L
8 Mr. Vegas Mena M 117 L
9 Mister Marti Gras Borel C H 114 L
10 Joinem Graham J 116 L
11 Papaw Bodie Napravnik R 116 L

10th (4:55) Louisiana Derby (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

2 Fire Alarm Mena M 122 L 20-1
3 Windsurfer Velazquez J R 122 L 12-1
4 Finnegans Wake Lanerie C J 122 L 15-1
5 Flashy Sunrise Maragh R 122 L 30-1
6 Cigar Street Bridgmohan S X 122 L 7-2
7 Shared Property Goncalves L R 122 Blk-On L 10-1
1 Mr. Bowling Albarado R J 122 L 2-1
1A Mark Valeski Napravnik R 122 L 2-1
8 SCRATCHED
9 Comisky's Humor Eramia R E 122 L 20-1
10 Z Dager Sellers S J 122 L 8-1
11 Rousing Sermon Smith M E 122 L 6-1
12 Hero of Order Martin E M Jr 122 L 30-1
13 Afford Graham J 122 L 15-1

A-Coupled: Mr. Bowling and Mark Valeski

At least there is a full field. :)

thought discreet dancer was going here?

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Originally Posted by dpkovalesky (Post 848567)

thought discreet dancer was going here?

Comisky's Humor scared him off.

i saw cigar street's last and it was very impressive..7/2 is a gift.

Mike Welsch‏ (@DRFWelsch): Todd Pletcher reports Fountain of Youth 3rd place finisher Discreet Dancer off Triple Crown trail. Will get a break, return later in year.

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 848755)

Mike Welsch‏ (@DRFWelsch): Todd Pletcher reports Fountain of Youth 3rd place finisher Discreet Dancer off Triple Crown trail. Will get a break, return later in year.

I'm shocked.

Is later a euphamism for never?

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 848755)

Mike Welsch‏ (@DRFWelsch): Todd Pletcher reports Fountain of Youth 3rd place finisher Discreet Dancer off Triple Crown trail. Will get a break, return next year with no discernable excuse given, win multiple races at GP then get another mysterious "injury."

FTFY

Sounds like the same issue that plagued Brethren.

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 848761)

Sounds like the same issue that plagued Brethren.

Didn't I read the other day that there was never anything " seriously " wrong with Brethren ( other than a bad case of the slows )? Which begs the question, how much time would he have missed with a real issue given this supposed nothing caused him to lose a year?

Pletcher has a winning percentage and reputation to protect:eek:

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 848708)

i saw cigar street's last and it was very impressive..7/2 is a gift.

I dunno that 7-2 on a maiden winner in a 14-horse field is a gift, but he sure as hell was impressive.

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 848764)

Excellent question. No matter how long, however, a massive GP return effort would be odds-on.

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“He had a poor performance in the Arkansas Derby, so we just decided to give him some time off. He never really had any serious issues,” said Pletcher. “He’s ready to go, now we have to figure out where to start him back. I have him nominated for the Sir Shackleton, but nothing is definite yet.”

http://www.drf.com/news/gulfstream-brethren-set-return

Excited to bet against Mark V.

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 848804)

Excellent question. No matter how long, however, a massive GP return effort would be odds-on.

http://www.drf.com/news/gulfstream-brethren-set-return

I doubt I will bet the race....but I wouldn't bet him. Too slow for me.

Anyone like Arm Force? He should appreciate going longer. Big field with a lot of the big name trainers, you likely will get all of that 20-1.

Took my first look at the pp's for the La Derby today and Rousing Sermon caught my eye.
Third off the layoff and just got back to his juvy top number.
He is shipping and running back on 3wks rest though. No local works.

One thing is sure: Tom Amoss' colt Shared Property will be overbet. The locals are just dying for him to win this race one day, and his Derby prospects always get over-hyped and overbet at FG.

Hey, it's my first post!
Nice to be aboard.

Supposedly Arm Force is going to withdraw/scratch.
NO Handicap is my favorite race of the day.