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Kasept 06-05-2016 09:34 AM

6/9-10 (BEL): Coronation, Astoria, Intercontinental; True North, NY (G2's)
 
5th (3:07) Belmont Coronation Invitational S.

1 15/16 Miles (Inner turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Achnaha (IRE) Castellano J J 114 L
2 Suffused (GB) Ortiz J L 114 L
3 Brandybend (IRE) Geroux F 114 FTL
4 Return to Grace Rosario J 114 L
5 Generosidade (URU) Pereira T J 120 L
6 Al Khazaaliya Velazquez J R 116 L



7th (4:14) Astoria S.

5 1/2 Furlongs | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Olive Branch Ortiz J L 120 L
2 Anna's Bandit Camacho E 120 L
3 Harlands Thunder Geroux F 120
4 Summer Sally Ortiz I Jr 120 L
5 China Grove Saez L 120
6 R Precious Stones Davis J A 120 L
7 Lightning Dove Rosario J 120 L
8 Golden Mischief Franco M 115 L
9 Bode's Dream Velazquez J R 120 L



8th (4:48) Intercontinental S.

7 Furlongs (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Shrinking Violet Desormeaux K J 123 L
2 Distorted Beauty Ortiz J L 120 L
3 Mississippi Delta Lezcano J 120 L
4 Miss Ella Rosario J 123 L
5 Notte d'Oro Velazquez J R 120 L
6 Unbridled Courage Saez L 120 L
7 Rapid Rhythm Geroux F 120 L
8 Zindaya Castellano J J 123 L
9 La Berma (IRE) Espinoza V 116 L
10 Rumble Doll Ortiz I Jr 116 L

Kasept 06-05-2016 02:38 PM

6/10 (BEL): True North, New York (G2's), Gold Cup, Tremont, more
 
https://www.equibase.com/premium/eqb...-BEL-20160610D

Kasept 06-05-2016 08:47 PM

3rd (1:52) Rags to Riches Invitational S.

1 1/2 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Sweetgrass Castellano J J 114 L
2 Mei Ling Velazquez J R 116 Blk-Off L
3 Stroke Play Rosario J 114 L
4 Joint Return Carmouche K 114 L
5 Milaya Ortiz I Jr 116 L
6 Theogony Leparoux J R 114 L



4th (2:24) Tremont S.

5 1/2 Furlongs | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Saratoga Two Step Cancel E 118
2 Hey Mike Castellano J J 121 L
3 Lady Stardust Ortiz I Jr 118 L
4 Silver Mission Velazquez J R 121 L
5 Is Everybody Happy Pedroza B 121 L
6 Pachi Cruze Cruz A 121
7 Lifelong Dreamer Rosario J 118 L



5th (2:56) Jersey Girl S.

6 Furlongs | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Blip n' Th Bye Geroux F 117 L
2 Appealing Maggie Ortiz J L 117 L
3 She's All Ready Carmouche K 123 L
4 Quick Release Castellano J J 117 L
5 One True Kiss Leparoux J R 117 L
6 Kareena Ortiz I Jr 115 L
7 Off the Tracks Velazquez J R 121 L



8th (4:42) True North S. (G2)

6 Furlongs | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Holy Boss Velazquez J R 124 L
2 Joking Franco M 122 L
3 Private Zone Pedroza M A 124 L
4 Dads Caps Ortiz I Jr 122 L
5 Catalina Red Castellano J J 122 L
6 Always Sunshine Pennington F 124 L



9th (5:14) New York S. (G2)

1 1/4 Miles (Inner turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Sea Calisi (FR) Ortiz J L 121 L
2 Dacita (CHI) Ortiz I Jr 123 L
3 Trophee (FR) Rosario J 115 L
4 Havana Moon Geroux F 115
5 Photo Call (IRE) Castellano J J 123 L
6 Kyllachy Queen (IRE) Alvarado J 115
7 Guapaza (CHI) Velazquez J R 115 L



10th (5:46) Belmont Gold Cup Invitational S.

2 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Belisarius (IRE) Ortiz J L 115 L
2 Tobias Saez G 115
3 Closing Bell Lezcano J 115 L
4 Up With the Birds Velazquez J R 115 L
5 Da Big Hoss Geroux F 123 L
6 Tiz Town Saez L 115 L
7 Rum Tum Tugger Cintron A 117 L
8 Silver Lime Franco M 115
9 Kaigun Rosario J 121 L
10 My Afleet Prado E S 115 L
11 Biz The Nurse (IRE) Ortiz I Jr 115 L
12 Twilight Eclipse Castellano J J 123 L
13 Now We Can (GB) Leparoux J R 117

jms62 06-09-2016 05:02 PM

Is there a 2 day double into Belmont.. Sorry if it was posted and I missed it.

tanner12oz 06-09-2016 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1066388)
Is there a 2 day double into Belmont.. Sorry if it was posted and I missed it.


I'm.also interested..

Kasept 06-09-2016 08:20 PM

YES.

GOLD CUP-BELMONT 2-DAY DOUBLE..

Benny 06-09-2016 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1066400)
YES.

GOLD CUP-BELMONT 2-DAY DOUBLE..

also True North /Metropolitan dd

cakes44 06-10-2016 07:16 PM

Sweet ride on Sea Calisi! Is is okay for a NY rider to just ride the best horse like the best horse or do they have to prove they are the smartest guy in the room like a college professor?

cakes44 06-10-2016 07:21 PM

I shouldn't say it like that. When Velazquez is on the best horse, Velazquez wins the race.

blackthroatedwind 06-10-2016 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1066509)
I shouldn't say it like that. When Velazquez is on the best horse, Velazquez wins the race.

I guess you missed the True North today.

cakes44 06-10-2016 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1066512)
I guess you missed the True North today.

I definitely did.

And now I got it. He did make that look hard.

I assume you agree with Sea Calisi though? That horse is for real IMO and is the likely F&M BC turf winner. I guess it might help on the odds in the next one?

blackthroatedwind 06-10-2016 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1066513)
I definitely did.

And now I got it. He did make that look hard.

I assume you agree with Sea Calisi though? That horse is for real IMO and is the likely F&M BC turf winner. I guess it might help on the odds in the next one?

Yes, I agree that Sea Calisi was best today, and she is a terrific horse, but it's a little premature the call her the "likely" BC winner. If she stays sound, she feels like a horse that could be a major player, but there are a lot of "ifs" in that statement.

Her race today will lower her odds next time. Everyone saw her trip/trouble.

KidCruz 06-14-2016 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1066516)
Yes, I agree that Sea Calisi was best today, and she is a terrific horse, but it's a little premature the call her the "likely" BC winner. If she stays sound, she feels like a horse that could be a major player, but there are a lot of "ifs" in that statement.

Her race today will lower her odds next time. Everyone saw her trip/trouble.


So, after the stumble, you wanted JV to rush him up into the lead past a horse in Dad's Caps (who ran great) that was already setting tough early fractions? I just don't think he wins that way either. I don't think Holy Boss was winning that race after the stumble no matter what so blaming the rider is tough in my opinion but I am interested in your thoughts on what JV should have done.

blackthroatedwind 06-14-2016 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KidCruz (Post 1066976)
So, after the stumble, you wanted JV to rush him up into the lead past a horse in Dad's Caps (who ran great) that was already setting tough early fractions? I just don't think he wins that way either. I don't think Holy Boss was winning that race after the stumble no matter what so blaming the rider is tough in my opinion but I am interested in your thoughts on what JV should have done.

It was an extremely slow pace, in relative terms, and it was more of a bobble than stumble. He took a hold of him very quickly and made little attempt for the lead. Yes, in my opinion, it was a poor ride and it cost the horse any chance for victory.

KidCruz 06-14-2016 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1066987)
It was an extremely slow pace, in relative terms, and it was more of a bobble than stumble. He took a hold of him very quickly and made little attempt for the lead. Yes, in my opinion, it was a poor ride and it cost the horse any chance for victory.

I don't think it's a slam dunk but you have a case. Thanks for your insight.


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