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Sightseek 09-02-2009 11:08 AM

9/5 (SAR): Woodward (G1)
 
10TH (5:52) Woodward S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Da' Tara Lezcano J 126 L (12-1)
2 Bullsbay Rose J 126 L (6-1)
3 Rachel Alexandra Borel C H 118 L (1-2)
1A Cool Coal Man Velazquez J R 126 L (12-1)
4 Macho Again Albarado R J 126 L (8-1)
5 It's a Bird Leparoux J R 126 L (10-1)
6 Asiatic Boy (ARG) Garcia Alan 126 L (10-1)
7 Past the Point Prado E S 126 L (12-1)

A-Coupled: Da' Tara and Cool Coal Man

Coach Pants 09-02-2009 11:10 AM

Neat.

Travis Stone 09-02-2009 11:22 AM

I know she's Rachel and everything but does everything think she stays as low as 1-2?

I think a lot of wise-guy handicappers are going to use this race as a chance to play against her. She's faster on paper, sure, but there's the big overhanging cloud about it being older boys not just her age etc.

boswd 09-02-2009 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
The field:

Post position (program number)

1. (1) Da' Tara - Jose Lezcano - Nick Zito - 12-1

2. (2) Bullsbay - Jeremy Rose - Graham Motion - 6-1

3. (3) Rachel Alexandra - Calvin Borel - Steve Asmussen - 1-2

4. (1A) Cool Coal Man - John Velazquez - Nick Zito - 12-1

5. (4) Macho Again - Robby Albarado - Dallas Stewart - 8-1

6. (5) It's a Bird - Julien Leparoux - Marty Wolfson - 10-1

7. (6) Asiatic Boy - Alan Garcia - Kiaran McLaughlin - 10-1

8. 7) Past the Point - Edgar Prado - Eoin Harty 15-1

Da' Tara and Cool Coal Man coupled


You're quicker then NYRA getting this up, Thanks.

3&5 EXBX

cakes44 09-02-2009 11:38 AM

I will probably go with that as well, but I still need to look at some other things first obviously. It's a Bird will likely be juiced out of his mind for this one.

boswd 09-02-2009 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Stone
I know she's Rachel and everything but does everything think she stays as low as 1-2?

I think a lot of wise-guy handicappers are going to use this race as a chance to play against her. She's faster on paper, sure, but there's the big overhanging cloud about it being older boys not just her age etc.


I agree 1-2 is a bit much, but she is being spotted 8Lbs in the process.

Now if Macho Again or Bullsbay step up and win this making them a multple GI winner are they the new star of racing?

CSC 09-02-2009 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Stone
I know she's Rachel and everything but does everything think she stays as low as 1-2?

I think a lot of wise-guy handicappers are going to use this race as a chance to play against her. She's faster on paper, sure, but there's the big overhanging cloud about it being older boys not just her age etc.

I hear you, there are no sure things in racing, but if this field was minus Rachel I don't think many would say this is allstar stellar group of older horses. Certainly not in the league of the Left Bank-Street Cry-Lido Palace-Macho Uno 2002 Whitney. I sense the tension is up that her supporters think she may not run her race, I don't know she has a good draw, she has the weight for sex advantage. If she runs her race she should win this. However 1-2 does seem low for the ML.

randallscott35 09-02-2009 11:46 AM

Da Tara surely deserves to be here after that bang up last race.

robfla 09-02-2009 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Stone
I know she's Rachel and everything but does everything think she stays as low as 1-2?

.

I think she will be LOWER than 1:2

guessing 2:5 at best.

Scav 09-02-2009 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35
Da Tara surely deserves to be here after that bang up last race.

I'm beginning to think that is all the owner and not Zito, he usually spots his horses pretty well

randallscott35 09-02-2009 12:12 PM

I would tend to agree but this spot is ridiculous.

Antitrust32 09-02-2009 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
The field:

Post position (program number)

1. (1) Da' Tara - Jose Lezcano - Nick Zito - 12-1

2. (2) Bullsbay - Jeremy Rose - Graham Motion - 6-1

3. (3) Rachel Alexandra - Calvin Borel - Steve Asmussen - 1-2

4. (1A) Cool Coal Man - John Velazquez - Nick Zito - 12-1

5. (4) Macho Again - Robby Albarado - Dallas Stewart - 8-1

6. (5) It's a Bird - Julien Leparoux - Marty Wolfson - 10-1

7. (6) Asiatic Boy - Alan Garcia - Kiaran McLaughlin - 10-1

8. 7) Past the Point - Edgar Prado - Eoin Harty 15-1

Da' Tara and Cool Coal Man coupled

Does everyone still think the Travers was such a tougher race than this still? I know there are no Invasor's in here or even Lawyer Ron's... but its a nice field for what we have out there.

I'm not going to bet but if I was it wouldnt be on Rachel.. Macho Again would probably take my cash.. and burn it. lol

I hope she wins and if she runs her race she should, but this is no gimme.

Clip-Clop 09-02-2009 12:56 PM

Wolfson's horses run big at the right time, :rolleyes: perhaps he can get it done.

SniperSB23 09-02-2009 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Does everyone still think the Travers was such a tougher race than this still? I know there are no Invasor's in here or even Lawyer Ron's... but its a nice field for what we have out there.

I'm not going to bet but if I was it wouldnt be on Rachel.. Macho Again would probably take my cash.. and burn it. lol

I hope she wins and if she runs her race she should, but this is no gimme.

I think this race is tougher than the Travers.

CSC 09-02-2009 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Does everyone still think the Travers was such a tougher race than this still? I know there are no Invasor's in here or even Lawyer Ron's... but its a nice field for what we have out there.

I'm not going to bet but if I was it wouldnt be on Rachel.. Macho Again would probably take my cash.. and burn it. lol

I hope she wins and if she runs her race she should, but this is no gimme.

Prior to the Travers, that would have been a good question to the Quality Road backers. For the record I'd take QR over these horses.

SniperSB23 09-02-2009 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC
Prior to the Travers, that would have been a good question to the Quality Road backers. I'd take QR over these horses.

He fits with these horses at 9 furlongs, he wasn't ready for 10.

Alan07 09-02-2009 01:08 PM

12 races Saturday

Antitrust32 09-02-2009 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC
Prior to the Travers, that would have been a good question to the Quality Road backers. I'd take QR over these horses.


I didnt understand the Quality Road buzz before the Travers. His race in the FL Derby was awesome but that was quite awhile ago now. His 6.5 furlong race was good but as it was pointed out on here by DrugS.. the final time had a lot to do with the speedy track, and the 2nd place finisher broke the track record also.


Again I didnt bet the Travers.. but your horse (Summer Bird) was the best bet, he was the most accomplished, very classy & you know he was going to love 1 1/4. & the odds were great.

Other than Summer Bird the only other option IMO would have been to chase a longshot.

I really wasnt feeling the Quality road buzz.. SB deserved that buzz more IMO.

slotdirt 09-02-2009 01:16 PM

Have to think this is just about the best the handicap division has to offer right now, no? Macho Again, Bullsbay have had half-decent seasons.

Clip-Clop 09-02-2009 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I didnt understand the Quality Road buzz before the Travers. His race in the FL Derby was awesome but that was quite awhile ago now. His 6.5 furlong race was good but as it was pointed out on here by DrugS.. the final time had a lot to do with the speedy track, and the 2nd place finisher broke the track record also.


Again I didnt bet the Travers.. but your horse (Summer Bird) was the best bet, he was the most accomplished, very classy & you know he was going to love 1 1/4. & the odds were great.

Other than Summer Bird the only other option IMO would have been to chase a longshot.

I really wasnt feeling the Quality road buzz.. SB deserved that buzz more IMO.

And won another big race on Saturday.


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