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blackthroatedwind 02-12-2007 03:50 PM

You've GOT to be Kidding Me....i.e. Lawrence the Roman
 
Either Lawrence Roman is the most generous man in the world ( I don't know him....perhaps he is ) or there's a LOT more to this story.

I'm just curious....can those foolish enough to bet him also get their money back? I mean, his performance didn't turn out to be all they expected either.


http://thoroughbredtimes.com/nationa...oman-deal.aspx

paisjpq 02-12-2007 03:57 PM

wtf?!?!

randallscott35 02-12-2007 03:57 PM

Now that is funny.

Cannon Shell 02-12-2007 03:59 PM

Does he have anything else for sale?

Coach Pants 02-12-2007 04:01 PM


SniperSB23 02-12-2007 04:04 PM

I think it is pretty awesome.

blackthroatedwind 02-12-2007 04:05 PM

Am I the only one picturing Robert Shaw in " The Sting "....


" There's been a mistake! Gimme my money back! "

Gander 02-12-2007 04:06 PM

So do I and I know somebody who could provide the full scoop about this. An honest man isnt easy to come by these days.

blackthroatedwind 02-12-2007 04:14 PM

The whole story will be out and about relatively shortly. Whether it is on the record or not.

ArlJim78 02-12-2007 04:16 PM

From what I can gather he's just a stand-up kind of guy that wasn't comfortable letting others feel that they were duped.

Not the kind of story you hear of very often.

I also like the suggestion that he buy back losing tickets from bettors who after the race had second thoughts about what they had purchased.

blackthroatedwind 02-12-2007 04:19 PM

Look, if you're in this business to sell horses, you want people to do well, as then they will be repeat customers. However, horse racing is nothing if not a " buyer beware " game, and that goes for horse buyers and bettors alike.

As I said before, the original owner must be a terrific guy, but I just can't help but feel there is at least a LITTLE more to this story. Perhaps they had an out if he ran poorly with the understanding that they were also paying a far greater sum if he won impressively. For example, say they paid $500K for 50%, I have no idea what was paid, but would have given them $1 million if he ran a Beyer figure of over 105. I doubt this is close to the deal but I am just making an example.

SentToStud 02-12-2007 04:20 PM

He's a retired plumbing contractor.

He bred the horse and has already bought it back once.

Amusing story (half-way down the page):

http://www.nybreds.com/frames/FS_nybreds_news.html

Gander 02-12-2007 04:21 PM

Yes, hang tight. The whole story will be out very soon.

mp3 02-12-2007 07:32 PM

lawrence the roman/ ieah
 
There has been nothing but speculation surrounding this deal. Here is what really went on. First off, i am qualified as i am a close friend of mike iavarone. the horse was done on a last minute deal reccommended by dutrow. They were rushed into the deal because another buyer pulled out that morning. They did not get the chance to ultrasound his right front tendon as there may have been issues. They deal included escape clauses post race that were gladly agreed upon by both sides. It was a straight forward deal that both sides walked away feeling every bit the same about each other. There is avery good chance that the colt has an issue but under no circumstances will they tell anyone they dont have too

The Indomitable DrugS 02-12-2007 07:44 PM

Or......

Perhaps the horse was just a fraud who fell into one sweet trip after another and was finally exposed on Saturday....

Thoroughbred Fan 02-12-2007 09:10 PM

Two words: FRONT WRAPS!

Cajungator26 02-12-2007 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Or......

Perhaps the horse was just a fraud who fell into one sweet trip after another and was finally exposed on Saturday....

Nah, the fact that the colt had front wraps on was alarming.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-12-2007 11:27 PM

If you say so.

DiscreetCat=Monster 02-13-2007 12:11 AM

I think somethin went bad in this race he'll bounce back and still be a graded stakes horse

declansharbor 02-13-2007 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiscreetCat=Monster
I think somethin went bad in this race he'll bounce back and still be a graded stakes horse

whah???? hold the phones.....

KY_Sasquash 02-13-2007 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan
Two words: FRONT WRAPS!

Amen, when I saw that I knew something was up

Gander 02-13-2007 09:44 AM

That wasnt the reason for his bad performance.

Mac88 02-13-2007 10:52 AM

I unfortunately was sucked in by this horse and believed he had a future on the Derby Trail. I ws VERY wrong. Whether it was the front wraps or something more sinister or hidden, the horse had NO business backing out of the race as he did on Saturday.

Not sure what his future holds as of now but certainly is not headed to Classics. Plenty of NYB stakes and smaller spots to shoot for however I guess. I felt Summer Doldrums was impressive in Whirlaway but was performance at all heightened by inside bias? Would like comments on that.


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