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randallscott35 02-10-2007 04:40 PM

Wilko Has Nothing
 
Boy I always thought this horse would be decent but he just never got any better than the BC Juvy. A few clunkers here and there and he matched his big number in the World Cup last year, but now it looks like he doesn't even want to run anymore.

Just disinterested. To the shed.

GPK 02-10-2007 04:42 PM

agree Rand...didn't look very impressive at all...nor that interested in running.

GPK 02-10-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B
agree Rand...didn't look very impressive at all...nor that interested in running.


although...really thinking about it...the winner looked awfully good. I think Wilko would have to have been fully cranked to get to him today....maybe this was a prep for something bigger down the road?

randallscott35 02-10-2007 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B
although...really thinking about it...the winner looked awfully good. I think Wilko would have to have been fully cranked to get to him today....maybe this was a prep for something bigger down the road?

Maybe, but his last few sort of look the same at this point. And his race at Toga looked as if he might be off physically...he may well be retired soon.

paisjpq 02-10-2007 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Maybe, but his last few sort of look the same at this point. And his race at Toga looked as if he might be off physically...he may well be retired soon.

is he 5 this year or 6?

GPK 02-10-2007 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
is he 5 this year or 6?

gotta be 5...won the Juvy in 04?

randallscott35 02-10-2007 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B
gotta be 5...won the Juvy in 04?

He's 5.

GPK 02-10-2007 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
He's 5.


Rand....Colonial handicapping contest for you and I again this year?

paisjpq 02-10-2007 04:55 PM

gracias...I couldn't remember...thought he was 6 for some reason:o

SniperSB23 02-10-2007 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B
although...really thinking about it...the winner looked awfully good. I think Wilko would have to have been fully cranked to get to him today....maybe this was a prep for something bigger down the road?

He was prepping for the Big Cap. They wanted a dirt mile but the race didn't fill so they wound up throwing him on the turf just to get a race in him.

GPK 02-10-2007 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
gracias...I couldn't remember...thought he was 6 for some reason:o


old age is a bitch:p

randallscott35 02-10-2007 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B
Rand....Colonial handicapping contest for you and I again this year?

Haha Kev. I doubt it. Too far to travel for me. I don't play that many....If there was a quick flight or something maybe, but I don't see it.

Kasept 02-10-2007 04:57 PM

That was a grass race prep for a T2D start in the Big Cap.. Whenever you think he's got nothing, he hits the board at a nice price.

GPK 02-10-2007 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
He was prepping for the Big Cap. They wanted a dirt mile but the race didn't fill so they wound up throwing him on the turf just to get a race in him.

thanks Snipe. Hope the race over the grass will get some bottom under him.

paisjpq 02-10-2007 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B
old age is a bitch:p

GFY:mad: :D

randallscott35 02-10-2007 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
That was a grass race prep for a T2D start in the Big Cap.. Whenever you think he's got nothing, he hits the board at a nice price.

The old Wilko, yes, the new one....Hasn't won in years, finished 3rd three times last year at 4-1, 7-1, and a non betting World Cup....Hey I hope he comes around. Always had a soft spot for the guy. Really do.

GPK 02-10-2007 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
GFY:mad: :D


can't...too afraid the upstairs neighbors will hear:D

paisjpq 02-10-2007 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B
can't...too afraid the upstairs neighbors will hear:D


I would think that by now you might just want to convince them that you're not a monk:D
a little healthy competition between nieghbors is normal:eek:

brianwspencer 02-10-2007 05:06 PM

He was never very good on the turf -- what was he before the BC, maybe 1 or 2 for 13 or something like that?

I haven't seen the race, but I wasn't too worried about him today anyway, didn't love the grass idea for wagering anyway.

Gander 02-10-2007 05:34 PM

Nobody in the history of gambling has lost more money on any one horse as I have lost on Wilco. I refuse to even spell his name like he wanted it to be spelled. I will honor and respect the band more than the horse, therefore everybody needs to spell it like the band, Wilco. Anybody who doesnt do so will be banned.

GPK 02-10-2007 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
I would think that by now you might just want to convince them that you're not a monk:D
a little healthy competition between nieghbors is normal:eek:


like I told you...if SHE can convince some dope into that...she has my respect:o

Danzig 02-10-2007 06:10 PM

well, not so hot finishes on turf translated into some nice races for perfect drift...wilco earned some money last year, unless he's absolutely hitting the breaks, i don't see a need to retire him just yet.

randallscott35 02-10-2007 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
well, not so hot finishes on turf translated into some nice races for perfect drift...wilco earned some money last year, unless he's absolutely hitting the breaks, i don't see a need to retire him just yet.

I hear ya Danzig, but his last few dirt starts resulted in 23+ length defeats. Tough to have much confidence going forward.

Danzig 02-10-2007 06:13 PM

watch him go off at double digits his next start and win by a mile...lol

The Bid 02-10-2007 08:09 PM

Are you sure you guys watched the race today? He finshed trying, needed it bad, and ran solid. He will move forward off this and have a good year if they can keep him sound.

Merlinsky 02-10-2007 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
Are you sure you guys watched the race today? He finshed trying, needed it bad, and ran solid. He will move forward off this and have a good year if they can keep him sound.

Yeah considering the length of layoff, the colic surgery, the fact that he wasn't made 100% for this anyway and the surface not being the one they wanted I figured he tried pretty hard and anything better than what he did would've been unexpected. Wasn't he 4th choice? Something like that. Could've sworn there was some other physical problem last year.

I have a sneaking suspicion that if we had a 4 horse race with Wilko, Funny Cide, Evening Attire, and Perfect Drift, they'd all find a way to dead heat for second. I love rooting for them though. If he won the Santa Anita Handicap I'd be ecstatic for his lil hard tryin' self.

Thunder Gulch 02-10-2007 08:38 PM

I always liked him, though I never thought he was really a G1 talent. He was a joy to watch when you knew he wasn't the best, yet tried to run as hard as he could. The lack of interest today is very alarming.

The Bid 02-10-2007 08:45 PM

His run in Dubai last year was what he is capable of when he feels good. He can be a very nice horse if he stays healthy. Horse carries a lot of class.

Merlinsky 02-10-2007 08:53 PM

Come to think of it they said he had foot issues right? Maybe there was a case of the 'ow'ies today. How firm was that turf?

The Bid 02-10-2007 09:09 PM

It was a case of a long layoff. He had chips removed, he had the intestine surgery, I mean this horse has had pleanty of excuses. Im looking forward to the old Wilko showing up a few times this year.

Merlinsky 02-11-2007 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
It was a case of a long layoff. He had chips removed, he had the intestine surgery, I mean this horse has had pleanty of excuses. Im looking forward to the old Wilko showing up a few times this year.

Ah I knew I wasn't crazy. Chip removal. Yeah I mean if pretty much any horse had given his litany of excuses before this race and gone on to finish just out of 3rd we'd have all said 'well what did you think he was gonna do? Poor guy' so it makes sense that Wilko wasn't in front today. He tried. Do you think he'll get a decent amount of respect as a classy underdog when it comes to running in the Big Cap? Who else is pointing to it?

brockguy 02-11-2007 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
The old Wilko, yes, the new one....Hasn't won in years, finished 3rd three times last year at 4-1, 7-1, and a non betting World Cup....Hey I hope he comes around. Always had a soft spot for the guy. Really do.

I backed him at 40-1 each way for the World Cup. got a nice enough payout.

The Bid 02-11-2007 06:38 AM

He will in the bigcap, also his surface of choice isnt turf. Hes as good as anything that will be in the bigcap when hes right, better

horseofcourse 02-11-2007 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid
He will in the bigcap, also his surface of choice isnt turf. Hes as good as anything that will be in the bigcap when hes right, better

You can't be serious here. Isn't Lava Man pointing to the bigcap?? When he's right, he's better than Lava Man on the Santa Anita dirt??

The Bid 02-11-2007 12:07 PM

Im dead serious, let him come in fit and sound.


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