Curiousity - Dreaming of Anna tomorrow
 

Anyone else think coming back at 6.5 is a little dangerous tomorrow, that race has some grit to it and she won't have the lead. She isn't a 6.5 furlong horse, she is 8 furlongs and up IMO. I might be going deep in that race, not sure yet.

i think the filly on the rail has a big shot, but dreaming is obviously a classy filly and will be tough to beat

I was thinking she may be vulnerable in this spot too.. the distance may be too short and besides, sometimes good fillies just don't like Gulfstream. Certainly not a bad idea trying to beat her Saturday.

totally agree with you zippy, but the only thing is who beats her? if its not the 1 horse, then i dont think there is anyone that can beat her in the field, i will be making a bet on the #1 horse in the race

now your really just trying to piss me off:cool:

obviously i love anna -- though her maiden in the slop was not a bad race for a first time out at a shorter distance, and her run on the turf was an absolute gem at a short distance too.

the distance shouldn't be the issue for her, she's run fast enough at short distances to win this one.

her not getting the lead is the thing to watch -- if douglas can keep her back, and her rating lesson goes well, then she'll walk over this field.

if she is exposed as a need the lead type tomorrow (which even if she loses, it doesn't mean she needs the lead per se...combine gulfstream and the layoff and lots could happen), then the races against the boys don't look so attractive.

i'd love to see her sit off the pace and still run her race. something tells me she'll be able to, as I think she's been on the lead as much because of raw speed and circumstance as any other reason (ie she was just too fast to not get the lead).

obviously it's not big stretch to say that she'd be my play tomorrow, but unless she gets super rank behind the leaders or douglas tries to push her to the lead when she shouldn't be there...this field is nowhere near salty enough to otherwise belong in the same zip code as anna.

Anna will sit just off Dream Rush and as they make the turn for home, she will give her a nice wink and say "see ya later kid" while rolling by. Race setup is perfect for her.

Quite the opposite here, she doesn't have 6 furlong speed, she has 8f or 9f speed.

I am going deep in this race because I think she might be beatable here, might use all.

I also think Street Magician might be a good bet against tomorrow as his first race, to me, looked like a gutter, and he is coming back awful fast....

I know bro...just giving you a hard time. I don't want her winning those races either...I want her back on the grass where she belongs dammit:mad:

I bet you they scratch tomorrow....

scratch Anna? where would they point her? A match race between her and EC??:D

It is either one of the two

1) they are going to scratch OR
2) it is a paid workout

Calabrese has been known to do **** like that, this would work into her pattern of works, and she has been working 6f for some time now.....

Whether Dreaming of Anna scratches or not, it must be noted that Dream Rush suffered one of the worst trips I've ever seen last time out. Bejarano tried fervently to save ground and effectively put himself in a box. He got race-ridden by Desormeaux all the way around the turn and into the stretch and the running was over by the time she got clear. I think she's a big play without DOA and should be considered even with the Eclipse champ in there.

NT

I disagree. First time out on a sloppy track she went 22.2 and 45.3

Second time out (granted on turf), she went 21.2 and 43.4

I'm pretty sure she's set for 6f speed if she needs it. Is she going to run 43.4 tomorrow and win? Probably not. It's a moot point though because she's not going to be freewheeling up front I don't think.

But she can move. None of the others in here seem to have shown any faster "6 furlong" speed, so I'm not quite sure what kind of speed you're seeing her lacking.

dream rush has a huge shot at winning tommorw...
maybe better then doa, because of the distance, layoff, and post positions

You realize that was when she was a baby, she is grown up now...back then, that was her capability, only because that was the option

Tomorrow is fishy, that is all I am saying

Too True
 

Exactly as written, you got it. If I recall she broke slow and was beaten for the lead and then boxed. She got the rail again with some speed to her outside, with Bear Now and DOA and Secretsoftheheart. One thing that sticks out to me in the speed dept. is DOA race of JJuly 29th at colonial on the turf. E1/E2 are 21.2 / 43.4. Dream Rush simply drew a bad spot again as she prefers to stalk, if DOA shoots to the lead Bejarano will have to work out a better trip than he did last time again, while Secrets of the heart draws well in the 5 spot, again. DOA looks like a single to me now, we shall see how they look later on today.

If you think DoA will be beaten, there should be good value on the board. Calabrese's horses are always overbet in the win pool.

I don't know what to think about her, I like Calabrese's horse in the race before quite a bit, that horse is a half to Liz on Polk Street who was a minor stakes winner. Not a huge fan of Touch Gold as a sire but Catalano will have that horse ready.

If you toss Street Magician, I think their is some value in that pick three, even if you single DOA

I dont know man, I agree with this for the most part, but I have caught a couple of his good winners over at Tampa(I am talking about 4/1 or better on Calabrese horses, unheard of, with Catalano's bro in law training.....

I think she's more likely to lose at 9f on dirt later in the spring than this one at 6.5 furlongs. I think she's plenty fast enough to run at this distance.

Catalano was on ATRAB yesterday and Steve asked about running her in the grass and Catalano said the only thing coming up for her at GP was a mile on the grass and he said he thought that would be too taxing for her. He said this race is to "get a race in her", don't think he cares if she wins, but she easily could win on class alone.

He also said don't leave his other horse off your Magna 5 ticket.

Honestly, I completely disagree with you about Dream Rush and really think you would benefit from watching this race over again ( probably a couple times ). While Dream Rush did get herself into a package, she also got clear with plenty of time available and simply did not have the run to win the race. Personally I think this is a textbook example of overblown phony trouble. She was absolutely clear BEFORE the eighth pole and gained virtually no ground on the winner from there to the wire.

Now, what is possible is that she is a one way speed horse, and simply disliked rating. Since their plan failed last time I believe she will absolutely be sent today, and as inside speed has been good lately I don't think it will be shocking if she wins. However, with Dreaming of Anna in the race, it's possible we see a speed duel, though Dream Rush should be faster than her early.

Not saying she can't win today but I think Dream Rush's trip last time was not the reason she lost. It was either a problem with rating or that she wasn't good enough. Please watch it again.

I have no way to watch the replay and I remember solely from watching the race that day. If your opinion is she lost because she can't rate or isn't good enough that's fine. I think she faced the most adversity she ever has and being her first start of the year maybe she was a little short in the final eighth.

I'm also not ready to say she cannot be rated. The rail is a tough draw once again, but the speed signed on outside of her is much quicker IMO, so maybe Bejarano can be a bit better with rating in attempt #2. I've never been a Dreaming of Anna fan, but that's for another argument.

Good luck to you today!

NT

I know you are just repeating what he says, but that horse is always LOW, I run out of fingers and have to go to toes when counting how many times that one horse has cost me a pick three ticket that I punched 10 times

Tamm, check your PM

I can remember when trainers would almost always start a horses campaign with a sprint.

She tired badly to finish third. Dream Rush romped.

F'n knew it, unbelievable, anybody catch that DOA finished up ahead of everyone half way around the turn.....

F'n stupidity on my end for using her in any exotics....ARGH

KEV,this track is like racing on Mars.Whoever comes into the stretch with the lead(inside) is gunna usually get a tank refill,and the one who is laying 2nd will get a flat.The leader draws off.Just a bit of a pattern when you race on f'n Mars.Even McCann's Mojave did it.

Umm...I am assuming this kills my chances of hearing from team Illman/Serling for any future race analysis:o

Stick to the bush leagues like Tampa

hell....even there I'm only good for 3 of 4:o

fyi: that jockey diet is coming along well...im down 1lb to 159....I should be set to ride by year 2030

skip the kick ass quesadillas and it'll come off faster;)

YOU PEEKING IN MY KITCHEN WINDOW??:eek:

LOL...they are cooking as we speak:o

If the jocks get their way you are already there!