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Danzig 02-03-2007 06:25 PM

brother derek..
 
8-5?!?!

what in the hell are those people smoking?!

dftwhbvxlcklop 02-03-2007 06:28 PM

I think he pretty much handles this field. The only other horse I would even consider is Arson Squad. But there is no pace in this race and Brother Derek should be able to handle this field.

Danzig 02-03-2007 06:32 PM

i don't know...winless since the santa anita derby.

dftwhbvxlcklop 02-03-2007 06:33 PM

I hear you on that. But Sweet Return was also winless in her last 9 starts and she won today. She got soft easy fractions and I picture the same for Brother Derek.

The Bid 02-03-2007 06:33 PM

Should gallop

Danzig 02-03-2007 06:35 PM

yeah, you watch now that i've started this-- he waltzes!

Danzig 02-03-2007 06:35 PM

but 8-5? i just don't know why everyone is so keen to bet him down so much.

The Bid 02-03-2007 06:38 PM

I think 2 to 1 on Brother Derek is huge. Hes going to win

dftwhbvxlcklop 02-03-2007 06:45 PM

Arson Squad looked pretty good. I have bet that horse in his last 3 and lost. I thought he was done. But nice race by all the top 4 finishes. Pretty exciting race.

The Bid 02-03-2007 06:45 PM

No excuses for him. Perfect trip, niggled on turning for home, was game, but just not good enough.

randallscott35 02-03-2007 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig188
8-5?!?!

what in the hell are those people smoking?!

He gets bet every single time. I don't get it.

The Bid 02-03-2007 06:47 PM

Same thing I was smoking

PSH 02-03-2007 06:47 PM

BD a tease
 
What a money burner.
Generally runs good enough to tease you that next time will be his time but so far Brother Derek is just not getting the job done.

THat said, he is also a money maker for his owner

pick4 02-03-2007 06:48 PM

Espinoza gave Midnight Lute another 3wide 1st turn, 4 wide second turn ride.

pick4 02-03-2007 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Espinoza did Midnight Lute no favors with the very wide trip although he came up empty late. Spring At Last ran a good race. Brother Derek cannot win unless he is on the lead by himself. Like Sweet return.

He gave him the same exact wide crappy ride three weeks ago.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-03-2007 06:51 PM

solis...bad..bro derek,,should be named the tin man..NO HEART..ALL HE EVER WANTED TO BE WAS BUD FOX..LMFAO

paisjpq 02-03-2007 06:52 PM

UGGGH...whether or not he is the best horse in the race...just once I would like to see Midnight Lute break well...get in a good position early...and then get a good ride to the finish line...without going 6 wide or the jock moving early....I know I am asking a lot:(

Rudeboyelvis 02-03-2007 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig188
i don't know...winless since the santa anita derby.

And won it looking backwards...As much as I hate to say it, it appears as though he just had a great day... Turns out he's clearly not the horse everyone (including me) thought he was....

Coach Pants 02-03-2007 06:54 PM

The roof is on fiyah!!

Danzig 02-03-2007 07:20 PM

nicely done by arson squad.

and the thing is...next time derek runs, he'll get bet down again. name recognition.

hoovesupsideyourhead 02-03-2007 08:03 PM

bro derek stud deal in the works..he really has done enough..i think he should be gelded so as to not further the over hyped hanger in the breed..:cool:

Danzig 02-03-2007 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
bro derek stud deal in the works..he really has done enough..i think he should be gelded so as to not further the over hyped hanger in the breed..:cool:

stonewall would kill themselves trying to get him....can't wait for the full page ads in bloodhorse.

eajinabi 02-04-2007 12:40 AM

Why dont they have BRO D sent to the lead anymore????This horse is not going to rate!!! he seems so uncomfortable being held back. Let him run his race and then cash in.

The Bid 02-04-2007 12:44 AM

I like Dan Hendricks, but.....

I think they need a trainer change, something needs to change. That horse has shown flashes of being a racehorse, and hes way too good looking to run like that

King Glorious 02-04-2007 02:55 AM

Solis in the lead for dumb jock of the year. Gets off Derek to get on Arson Squad. Gets off Arson Squad to get back on Derek. Watches Arson Squad beat Derek. Why the move to get back on a heartless, can't-win horse like Derek? Wait till he finds a four-horse field with no pace then he'll be a winner again. Maybe.

letswastemoney 02-04-2007 03:19 AM

Brother Derek is one of the worst bets you can ever make in horse racing!

This is one of those horses who will always finish 3rd or 4th and people will bet tremendous amounts of money on him each time out thinking he'll finally get his turn, when in reality he won't.

Five Star Derek 02-04-2007 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Brother Derek is one of the worst bets you can ever make in horse racing!

This is one of those horses who will always finish 3rd or 4th and people will bet tremendous amounts of money on him each time out thinking he'll finally get his turn, when in reality he won't.

BD is great for his owners or for anyone playing tri's and supers

AeWingnut 02-04-2007 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eajinabi
Why dont they have BRO D sent to the lead anymore????This horse is not going to rate!!! he seems so uncomfortable being held back. Let him run his race and then cash in.

I hate to tell you this but he was never held back. He's just a slow horse. He never had quick early fractions. Just had the lead against slower horses. I thought it was unbelievale that he managed a 4th in the Ky Derby. Ofcourse it was a very distant 4th. Then 4th in the Preakness..
hmm did he rn 4th yesterday?

Hey I found a key in the super


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